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Michelle

Michelle Report 20 Aug 2012 20:54

Hi Janice, Thanks for the info there with regards to the baptisms etc. Think I will do as you have suggested and have a basic membership here and give Ancestry a go when my current subscription runs out.

I was ordering my certs from GRO at around a tenner a time. As I only work part time I was having to limit myself to one a month!

Have made a note of all the info everyone has supplied me with and will ofcourse do my own digging to confirm everything/see it for myself. Will pop back with an update at a later time.

Thanks again everyone. xx

Janice

Janice Report 18 Aug 2012 11:07

Hi Michelle,

Renew your Genes membership at the basic level - about £8 - and do what we all do: use the boards for the chat, suggestions, batting ideas around etc.

The community work on here is the best I think, and there's a lot of experience around for bashing down brick walls and thinking outside the box.

By the way, are you ordering your certs direct from the GRO? That's the cheapest way (£9-25) so you'll pay way over the odds if you do it via Genes.

Janice

Michelle

Michelle Report 18 Aug 2012 11:01

@Reggie: Thanks for the tip....I assumed that all the sites would provide the same information and that sending off for the certificates was the norm. I do have an Ancestry account which I opened prior to the genes account but never got any further than adding a few names before finding this site. At the time I preferred the set up of this site so stayed here doing what I could when I could. My membership here expires in a few weeks so will probably get a month at the other site to see how I get on there.

@Janice....thanks for your help....I have replied to your post on the other thread. Will have to come back to this in a day or 2 when the earache has eased up....can't concentrate on anything at the mo! X

Janice

Janice Report 18 Aug 2012 10:20

Hi Michelle,

Going back to your original question about Minnie's siblings, I've been through the baptisms on Ancestry and extracted the children of Edward and Mary - it links up with the census data that's been found except at the end where it falls apart a bit - although I have found Rose who died in 1889 before her 1st birthday so didn't ever make a census.

Some of these have already been posted by other people so I'm just going to do a summary with addresses as they seem to move around a lot. Most are Walham Green which is part of Fulham - it's where Wandsworth Bridge Road meets King's Road on the map.

Mary Louise Stamford Road bap 5/7/68 Edward a plasterer

Edward Stamford Road 6/6/69 plasterer

Mary Sophia 18 St Mark's Road West Brompton born 19/8/71 bap 27/1/75

Eliza Anne 18 St Mark's Rd born 11/1/74 bap 27/1/75 labourer

Edith St George's Terrace labourer bap 4/3/77

Henry Robert Stanley Pk Rd Walham Green bap 6/11/81 bricklayer

Charles Stanley Pk Rd bap 6/11/81 bricklayer

Minnie 47 Campana(?sp) Rd bap 6/9/85 bricklayer

Rose 17 Rock Avenue Walham Green 3/2/89 bricklayer


The only two I can't find - if the census is correct - are Mariane and Emily born around 1885 and 1888. However, if those censuses are correct, Mary and Edward seem to be having problems so maybe they didn't get round to christening the kids except for Rose who was possibly ill as she died as a baby.

Janice

Janice Report 18 Aug 2012 00:39

Hi guys,

Need your opinions on the other thread where I think I might have found Mary in 1891 and 1901.

Still no sign of Minnie :-(

I've looked at Minnie, Min*, Winnie, Win*, Jeff* all with and without Fulham and I'm getting zilch on Ancestry.

Janice

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Aug 2012 21:38

What you're 'doing wrong' is using GR for research.

Those of who have helped you use other, far better sites.

The baptisms I posted were from Ancestry.

You also need to be flexible with regard to spelling

I found 1881 by just putting in Edward Jeff*........and occupation, brickayer...................then, having found the info, as I was using Ancestry, the link to 1871 was provided by the site

Dea

Dea Report 17 Aug 2012 12:10

Michelle,

PLEASE do not be put off from asking for help - as Prickles has said, we all make mistakes when we first start using the boards!

I realise that the second thread was only started as a general one but it so easily became a duplicate request when you were asked for more info. - This is what happens and I am sure you can now see why it is not a good idea to have 2 threads on the same subject.

Not only do we end up duplicating the research, which was why I posted the link to your first thread, but you also have the difficulty of having to follow both threads.

Far better for all of us to have all the info together.

Do have a look at ALL the info on both and then come back to us and let us know what else you need.

We will be very happy to try to help.

Dea Xxx

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 17 Aug 2012 11:37

Yes.........do come back to us Michelle.

And don't be worrying your head about it. We all made mistakes on here when we were new. ;-)

Prickles. x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Aug 2012 10:59

Michelle - that marriage is from Ancestry - they have quite a few Parish records collections and other good stuff.

Now, don't go flouncing off and you're not bothering (all of) us.

Now you know how things work then fire away if you need more help. If it's a query about the same family then just add to existing thread.

Happy hunting :-)

Michelle

Michelle Report 17 Aug 2012 10:59

I would also like to add that between September 2010 and August 2011, I had no internet access at all, having moved twice. I appreciate you get alot of time wasters who want everyone else to do the searching for them for free but I can assure you I am not one of them. I just wanted to pointing in the right dircting in order to do the search myself.

Many thanks to everyone for your help and sorry if you feel I have been wasting your time. Won't bother you again. X

Michelle

Michelle Report 17 Aug 2012 10:33

@MarieCeleste....what site do you use to get all that info? I've only used Genes and have had to order certificates to get the info you have just posted!

Michelle

Michelle Report 17 Aug 2012 10:29

Thanks for that info Reggie....I have full membership but not sure how you manage to get all the info you have.....guess I'm doing something wrong...

Also....I've been a member here since 2010 but did nothing with the site other than load info onto my tree for the first year, and contact a couple of relatives my mum thought had died. I've only been doing 'proper' searches via the census's since just before xmas and would consider myself new to it compared to many others who have been doing this for years. I appreciate the help you've given but being a member since 2010 does not necessarily mean I know all there is to know when it comes to researching!

And the 15 posts have only been over the last few weeks.....so not sure why it's a problem with me asking for help?? I've not used the boards until recently.....so you cant assume that people who have been members for 2 years know all there is to know and read all the forums.....cause I don't.

Michelle

Michelle Report 17 Aug 2012 10:18

@Dea....this thread was initailly just a general enquiry as i was hoping someone would just give ideas as to how to search for family I could not find on census's. Hence no info in the first post, and it being seperate to the other thread I started a couple of months ago. I had searched the boards first but couldn't find the info I was looking for.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Aug 2012 10:15

Oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!

2010 and 15 posts isn't really all that 'new'

I'm outa here

Michelle

Michelle Report 17 Aug 2012 10:13

Thanks guys......Rose is a name that I have come across as one of 2 witness on Minnie's marriage cert (Rose Ward and Joseph Ward) and I had wondered if she was a married sibling seeing as Ward is not a family name. I will probably order this birth cert along side the marriage cert of the parents, see if the info matches.

I've not been able to find the family on the 1891 census though, which would have Minnie as around 7 years old. Will have another look in a mo....

Really appreciate the help with this....it's the one part of the family that no one knows anything about! <3

Dea

Dea Report 17 Aug 2012 10:12

There is loads of info on the other thread you started on this person yesterday:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1301586

I realise that you are new but you really must keep just to one thread on the same person or family as people are now duplicating the work already done by others yesterday.

It is too late to delete either now as they both have many posts but I will put a message on your other thread telling people of this one so they can at least check what has already been found.

Please read the guidelines as to how things work on here which is sticked at the top of the board.

Thanks,

Dea x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Aug 2012 10:12

1911 England Census

Name: Mary Sophia Jeffery
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Sister
Gender: Female
Civil parish: Battersea
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 26 Latchmere Street, Battersea
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: HOUSE KEEPER
Registration district: Wandsworth
Registration District Number: 26
Sub-registration district: East Battersea
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Piece: 2148
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Richard John Jeffery 37
Mary Sophia Jeffery 34

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Aug 2012 10:10

Mary Louisa Jeffery 5 Jul 1868 Edward Jeffery,
Mary Jeffery Walham Green Hammersmith and Fulham
View Record
Edward Jeffery 6 Jun 1869 Edward Jeffery,
Mary Jeffery Walham Green Hammersmith and Fulham
View Record
Eliza Anne Jeffery 27 Jan 1875 Edward Jeffery,
Mary Jeffery West Brompton Kensington and Chelsea
View Record
Mary Sophia Jeffery 27 Jan 1875 Edward Jeffery,
Mary Jeffery West Brompton Kensington and Chelsea
View Record
Edith Jeffery 4 Mar 1877 Edward Jeffery,
Mary Jeffery Walham Green Hammersmith and Fulham

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Aug 2012 10:08

Michelle - no need to wait for payday!

London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921

Name: Edward Jeffery. Bachelor. Stonemason, of Harriet Street
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Spouse Name: Mary Coleman. Spinster, of Walham Green
Spouse Age: 17
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 18 Feb 1866
Parish: Walham Green St John
Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Father Name: Edward Jeffery - Stonemason
Spouse Father Name: John Coleman - Chimney Sweeper
Register Type: Parish Register

Witnesses: George Coleman and Sarah Anne Pearce

I'll send you the actual record.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 17 Aug 2012 10:06

Can't see them in 1891/1901.............I use Ancestry