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John Frere Pilgrim, Barbados

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k8e

k8e Report 18 Aug 2012 23:16

Hi, I am searching for any information on John's family in Barbados, early 19th century. And also, if anyone can advise on how to search for my Barbadian ancestors please?

Many thanks
:-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 18 Aug 2012 23:22

Try the IGI...if you have any idea of dates

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/default.asp

k8e

k8e Report 18 Aug 2012 23:57

Thank you so much for that website Reggie. How brilliant is that? x
:-)

Lynski

Lynski Report 19 Aug 2012 02:55

Is his name John Frere Pilgrim?

Have you seen this?

http://genforum.genealogy.com/pilgrim/messages/731.html

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Aug 2012 09:30

Linked

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1308517

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Aug 2012 09:58


England, Andrews Newspaper Index Cards, 1790-1976
Name: John Frere Pilgrim
Death Date: 1 Mar 1941
Death Place: Barbados

Archdeacon of Antigua

No reference to any family members

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Aug 2012 10:24

Slave Registers of former British Colonial Dependencies, 1812-1834


Rosetta abt 1747 Barbados 1817 John Frere Pilgrim

Rosetta abt 1747 Barbados 1820 John Freve Pilgrim

Sam abt 1747 Barbados 1820 John Freve Pilgrim

Sam abt 1747 Barbados 1817 John Frere Pilgrim

Easter abt 1759 Barbados 1832 John Frew Pilgrim

Maria abt 1761 Barbados 1817 John Frere Pilgrim

Maria abt 1761 Barbados 1820 John Freve Pilgrim

Phabe abt 1763 Barbados 1817 John Frere Pilgrim

Phabe abt 1763 St James Barbados 1834 Jno True Pilgrim

Phebe abt 1763 Barbados 1820 John Freve Pilgrim

Lydia abt 1773 Barbados 1820 John Freve Pilgrim
View Record
Lydia abt 1773 Barbados 1829 John Frere Pilgrim


Lydia abt 1773 Barbados 1817 John Frere Pilgrim

William abt 1773 Barbados 1820 John Freve Pilgrim

William abt 1773 Barbados 1817 John Frere Pilgrim
Gracy abt 1777 Barbados 1829 John Frere Pilgrim

Gracy abt 1777 Barbados 1823 John Frere Pilgrim

Edward abt 1777 Barbados 1820 John Freve Pilgrim

Edward abt 1777 Barbados 1817 John Frere Pilgrim

Hilas abt 1777 Barbados 1820 John Freve Pilgrim

Hilas abt 1777 Barbados 1829 John Frere Pilgrim

Elsey abt 1782 Barbados 1817 John Frere Pilgrim

Elsey abt 1782 Barbados 1820 John Freve Pilgrim

Elsey abt 1782 Barbados 1829 John Frere Pilgrim

Ket abt 1796 Barbados 1820 John Freve Pilgrim

Kit abt 1796 Barbados 1817 John Frere Pilgrim

Kit abt 1796 Barbados 1829 John Frere Pilgrim

Louis abt 1796 Barbados 1817 John Frere Pilgrim

Louis abt 1796 Barbados 1820 John Freve Pilgrim

Lowis abt 1796 Barbados 1829 John Frere Pilgrim

Bessey abt 1798 Barbados 1817 John Frere Pilgrim

Bessy abt 1798 Barbados 1820 John Freve Pilgrim

Bessy abt 1798 Barbados 1829 John Frere Pilgrim

And there are more...............................59 entries in total

JFP is the Owner

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 19 Aug 2012 12:50

Info. relative to JFP can be found at the Lambeth Palace Library....(Visits only)

From what I can work out from the Refs Catalogue The docs.are all part of the Fulham Papers (1755-1819) and relate to Appts.by the then Bishop of London/Court of St James... to the Colonies.

I have no idea the refs.below or what they relate to but there are quite a few with differing ref.

75-79 Pilgrim, John Frere: t., asst., St. James', June 14, 1798.

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Aug 2012 13:07

The Occold Slave Masters
The Frere family were probably the richest & most powerful family in & around Occold from late Medieval to Early Modern times. Particularly after they married-in the heiress to the Henman Estates.
Following the Reformation they sided with the Protestant cause. Tobias Frere’s son Thomas Frere of Occold (who in turn was grandson of another Thomas Frere of Occold– we really will have to get Barry to unravel this tortuous family tree) was twice Member for Norfolk in Cromwell’s Commonwealth Parliament. Other family members were rectors of local churches.

But this outwardly pious family found a new & more lucrative direction when the trade of slaves from West Africa to the New World began. The Freres established massive plantations in Barbados powered by bought in ‘Negroes’.

Later other family members, calling themselves Freer, set up further plantations in Carolina. Marriage into the Crispe family who had established the first permanent slave trading colony in West Africa, must have served their purpose well. John Frere’s three daughters were very ‘enterprising’ women, managing to marry eight rich and influential men between them, accumulating vast estates in the process.

The airport in Southern Barbados ‘Frere Pilgrim’ is testimony to one of their conquests.

Given the arbitrary & callous way in which the ordinary working people were treated at that time & the omnipotent power of the local squirarchy it would not have been such a great step to becoming a slave master. The treatment of English labourers in the seventeenth century was often cruel & invariably indifferent to their suffering. And often inflicted by the same slave owning families!

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Aug 2012 13:10

the whole family tree is here from 1225!!!

Descendants of John of Sweffling Frere, Sr. and the Barbados
When Gov. Atkins sent a census to the King in 1673, he listed John Frere as one of Barbados ... Her second marriage was to Major John Pilgrim in 1700. The estate formerly ...
home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~sfreer/?johfrere.html - Cached

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Aug 2012 13:15

MRS. DOROTHY FREERE, DAUGHTER OF RICHARD AND MARY , OF

KENT CHURCH COURT, HEREFORDSHIRE, BORN JAN. 26, 1734, MARRIED SEPT. 13,
1756, DIED JUNE II, 1789.

II.

[Ab) HON. JOHN FREERE, ESQ., OB. JAN. — , 1766, ^-T. 60.

nrms distinguished family being well known to the public, a few remarks only are

necessary.

There was a Baronetcy conferred, in 1620, on Edward Frcre, of Water Eyton,
Oxfordshire, but leaving no issue by his wife Mary, daughter of John Stafford, of
Blatherwick, it became extinct on his death, in 1630.

The Freres of Barbados came originally from Suffolk. Mary, daughter of John
Frere, who was Governor of Barbados in 1720, married Joseph Pilgrim, Chief Judge
of the Common Pleas, who died in 1734, left issue (the Rev.) John, of New Windsor,
Berks, who married Keturah, daughter of the Hon. James Bruce.

Government House in Barbados, is called " Pilgrim," after the family of the same
name ; and, about the middle of last century, a branch of the Barbadian family of
Archer settling in Jamaica, probably, so named one of their estates there, although
there were also Pilgrims in the latter island.

12.

{Ab?j SUSANNA FREERE, OB. .. JAN. .. 1759.

Read the ebook Monumental inscriptions of the British West ...
The Freres of Barbados came originally from Suffolk. Mary, daughter of John Frere, who was Governor of Barbados in 1720, married Joseph Pilgrim, Chief Judge
www.ebooksread.com/authors-eng/j-h-?james-henry-lawrence... - Cached



k8e

k8e Report 19 Aug 2012 14:06

Oh my goodness, what amazing information you have all given me. Thank you so much. I feel a bit bad about the slavery connection, but it is all very interesting. I have Keturah's father as Alexander, but that was only from Googling it, so might well be incorrect.

I'm planning a trip to Barbados to track down some records and places that were relevant to my family, so all information is gratefully received.

Thanks x

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 19 Aug 2012 15:11

Ann wife of John F P. used a Legacy from him to help purchase a 40 acre Estate on the boarders of St John and St Michael (1838) it was known locally as Ann's land ..by 1842 she had doubled her Estate to round about 90acres..Stewarts Hill..

Ann's Will incorporated names as Ellcock/Alleyne/Forsythe...(attributed to 2 of her sons and daughter) all being extremely wealthy Slave/Plantation Owners......

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 19 Aug 2012 15:35

the tree began in Suffolk, UK

k8e

k8e Report 19 Aug 2012 19:47

Thank you everyone, I had no idea that my ancestors were land owners. I guess its nothing to be proud of. I thought they were maybe missionaries or something.

I'm a little bit confused about Keturah Murray (nee Bruce), i think I might have missed a generation as I have her as being the mother of William Murray, but I wonder if there is another generation between her and him. I dont think the census records go back that far. Sorry, just thinking out loud!

Thanks again.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 19 Aug 2012 19:50

That's the snag with two interlinked posts.........you've posted on here re: the lady you asked about on your other thread.

You need to look at that one as well.................

k8e

k8e Report 19 Aug 2012 20:10

Thanks for the hint!
:-)