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Patricia

Patricia Report 30 Aug 2012 21:48

hi all,
i have only just started on my dads side of the family and have hit a brick wall as the people i am looking for are from scotland , please can anyone do a lookup for me on scotlandspeople, i dont have much info to go on but here goes
james campbell b 1825 and he married agnes(dont have her surname) they had peter m b 1850 scotland
james b 1859
david b 1862 and
andrew colin b 1864
they were all born in scotland except david and andrew they were born in liverpool dont know andrews occupation but the rest of them were engin makers g+m (dont know what that stands for either sorry
thanks pat

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 30 Aug 2012 22:15

Are you sure it is Jack?

1881 England Census

Name: James Campbell
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1825
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Agnes Campbell
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland

Civil parish: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: 16 Everton Valley
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Master Engineer G & M

Registration district: West Derby

James Campbell 56
Agnes Campbell 54
Peter M. Campbell 31
James A. Campbell 22
David Campbell 19
Andrew Campbell 17

Jan

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 30 Aug 2012 22:22


1861 England Census

Name: James Campbell
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Agnes Campbell
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Scotland

Civil parish: Everton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire

Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Everton
ED, institution, or vessel: 38

James Campbell 35
Agnes Campbell 35 Where born: Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland
Peter McArthur Campbell 11 Where born: Glasgow, Scotland
James McMiller Campbell 2 Where born: Glasgow, Scotland

Janice

Janice Report 30 Aug 2012 22:26

From FamilySearch:

Name: Peter Mcarthur Campbell
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 17 Mar 1850
Baptism/Christening Place: CAMBRIDGE STREET UNITED PRESBYTERIAN, GLASGOW, LANARK, SCOTL
Birth Date: 04 Feb 1850

Father's Name: James Campbell

Mother's Name: Agnes Mcarthur

Janice

Janice Report 30 Aug 2012 22:28


Groom's Name: James Campbell

Bride's Name: Agnes Mcarthur

Marriage Date: 21 Jun 1846
Marriage Place: Barony,Lanark,Scotland

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 30 Aug 2012 22:29

I suspect this might be Andrew? Not Andrew Colin though!

Births Mar 1864 (>99%)
Campbell Andrew Chisholm West Derby 8b 382

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Aug 2012 22:30

Patricia

Scotlands people is NOT a subscription site.

One has to purchase credits for the site, which, once used, are lost to the purchaser

Have you made use of the IGI? It is free on familysearch site

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 30 Aug 2012 22:31

I think this is almost certainly your Andrew - check out middle name for his daughter:

1911 England Census

Name: Andrew Chisholm Campbell
Age in 1911: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Everton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 5 St Domingo Grove Everton Liverpool
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: General Engineer
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: North Everton

Andrew Chisholm Campbell 47
Emily Jane Campbell 37
Agnes Isabel Campbell 9
Robert Kinnish Campbell 7
Hilda Macarthur Campbell 3
Margaret Hoare 23

Janice

Janice Report 30 Aug 2012 22:31


Name: James Campbell
Gender: Male

Birth Date: 01 Oct 1858
Birthplace: GOVAN,LANARK,SCOTLAND

Father's Name: James Campbell

Mother's Name: Agnes Mcarthur

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Aug 2012 22:34

all records show the man's name to be JAMES


1851 Scotland Census

Name: Peter Campbell
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: James Campbell
Mother's Name: Agnes Campbell
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanark
Parish Number: 644/1
Civil parish: Glasgow St George
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 18 N W S Road
ED: 19
Page: 19 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 70
Line: 12
Roll: CSSCT1851_154
Household Members:
Name Age
James Campbell 26.........born Glasgow
Agnes Campbell 24.........born Kippen, Stirlingshire
Peter Campbell 1

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Aug 2012 22:36

My Ancestry sub doesn't allow me to access the details

This record is linked by Ancestry to info about Peter

Peter Mcarthur Campbell
New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922

Ditto for this..............

Peter Macarthur Campbell
California, Voter Registers, 1866-1898
_____________________________________________


1911 England Census

Name: Peter Macarthur Campbell
Age in 1911: 61
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Civil parish: Waterloo
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: 8 Manley Rd Waterloo Lancashire
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Estate & Insurance Agent
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: Crosby
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Piece: 22316
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Macarthur Campbell 61
Elizabeth Campbell 31
James Hardman Campbell 6
Vera Campbell 4
Ellen Westerside 22

The marriage was in 1902

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Aug 2012 22:37

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966


Name: Peter Macarthur Campbell
Probate Date: 15 Feb 1933
Death Date: 19 Dec 1932
Death Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Registry: Liverpool, England

Address: 8 Manley Road, Waterloo, n.r Liverpool

Probate to widow, Elizabeth

Effects: £3638.10s

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 30 Aug 2012 22:48

I don't normally take punts on info...........but, in view of Agnes's stated birthplace, I wonder if these are her parents (and a sibling) in 1841

1841 Scotland Census

Name: Agnes Mcarthur
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Female
Where born: Stirlingshire, Scotland
Civil parish: Kippen
County: Stirlingshire
Address: Kippen
Parish Number: 484
Household Members:
Name Age
William Mcarthur 50
Agnes Mcarthur 50
Thomas Mcarthur 15

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 30 Aug 2012 22:59

Edit: Apologies Reggie we were updating at the same time...
I think Agnes was the daughter of Peter McArthur and Agnes McLeran at bottom of this thread.
Looks right as her 2nd son was named Peter and 1st daughter was Agnes

First born child who does not appear on any census and assumed o have died in infancy

name: John Campbell
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 20 Jun 1847
baptism/christening place: CAMBRIDGE STREET UNITED PRESBYTERIAN, GLASGOW, LANARK, SCOTL
birth date: 01 May 1847
father's name: James Campbell
mother's name: Agnes Mcarthur
indexing project (batch) number: C19111-1
system origin: Scotland-VR
source film number: 889486


name: Agnes Mcarthur Campbell
gender: Female
birth date: 26 May 1856
birthplace: MILTON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
father's name: James Campbell
mother's name: Agnes Mcarthur
indexing project (batch) number: C11928-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516


name: James Campbell
gender: Male
birth date: 01 Oct 1858
birthplace: GOVAN,LANARK,SCOTLAND
father's name: James Campbell
mother's name: Agnes Mcarthur
indexing project (batch) number: C11646-1
system origin: Scotland-ODM
source film number: 6035516

Birth for AGNES MCARTHUR which fits with names of her children
Agnes McArthur b 23 June 1822 Kippen Stirling.
Parents: Peter McArthur and Agnes McLeran

Patricia

Patricia Report 31 Aug 2012 09:26

many many thanks jan, janice, reggie and anne i have been searching igi family search for ages you are all very clever and a big thankyou once again i have a lot to digest now
thankyou all for your very welcome help
pat.

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 31 Aug 2012 11:05

Peter McArthur Campbell
Cannot be found on UK records between 1881 & 1902, but on the 1881 return he is listed as an Engineer

Possibly the same man?
All recorded as Peter McArthur Campbell b circa 1850 Scotland

The man who is listed on Australian emigration 4 Nov 1882 was a crew member. 2nd Engineer aboard the Austral from London to Sydney
The man on the California Voters Register ( San Francisco) of 1892 & 1896 was also an Engineer born Scotland.

I suspect that this was the same man, but I cannot find him coming back to the UK between 1896 and 1902

He was a bachelor when he married Elizabeth Hardman in Bootle 19 Nov 1902
His occupation is now an Estate Agent .
Peter was 41 yrs old and Elizabeth was 25yrs old.
Patricia, do you have this marriiage cert?
Can provide it from ANC if you wish.
There is also later travel info available for his son, James Hardman Campbell if you wish details.

EDIT
Marriage cert sent by PM

Anne

Patricia

Patricia Report 31 Aug 2012 12:22

anne,
thankyou very much for your help i think this is the same family as above they have a sone with his middle name being hardman also a daughter vera campbell. i would very much appriciate a copy of the cert also the travel details for james hardman
again thankyou very much for your very kind help
pat.

David

David Report 5 Sep 2012 12:31

Hello all.

I am the Great Grandson of Andrew Chisholm Campbell born 1864 died Wallesay, Cheshire 1943.

I have much information on the Campbell history as well as the Engineering Company James Campbell & Sons which was founded at 36 William Moult Street, Liverpool in 1874 by his Father James Campbell born Glasgow 1825, died Liverpool 1887. His wife was Agnes Campbell nee McArthur born Kippen in 1823, died Torr Road, Liverpool in 1895.

I can give give all my branch of Clan Campbell or indeed McArthur information from when we moved from Inveraray, Argyll to Carradale, Argyll, then to Glasgow, then Liverpool covering 800 years. The McArthur's before living in Kippen, Stirlingshire also came from Stracow, Argyll.

Ps: Peter McArthur Campbell's wife Elizabeth Hardman was 30 years younger then him when they married in 1902 in Liverpool when he was 52, she was 22.

My email address is: david.campbell@keme.co.uk

I look forward to hearing from you.

Kind Regards,


David Campbell.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Sep 2012 13:41

David

A word of advice.....

If you don't delete your e-mail details, GR will delete your post

ALL contacts will be made through this site

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 5 Sep 2012 13:46

Hello David, and welcome to the boards. A quick way to make contact is to click on Patricia's name and send a direct message (which is why we don't need email addresses on here).

As Reggie says, your post could get deleted if someone is small-minded and petty enough to report it. This isn't a secure site and there are some members who fret dreadfully about this and leap to the protection of others!