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Clara Elizabeth Felgate nee Marsh

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pat

pat Report 27 Oct 2012 11:23

I am trying to trace relatives of Clara Elizabeth Felgate nee Marsh.
DOB 1899,
She has twin sisters Audrey and Leslie born 1902 and a brother Reginald born 1904.
I have been searching for Clara for some time and finding nothing.
Clara was my father-in-laws mother,last seen in the finchley area after the break up of her marriage to Alfred Felgate.
My Father-in-law tried several times to find news of her but never found anyhting before his death in 2007.
I wish nothing more than to find her resting place and lay some flowers from her son Cyril who never forgot.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Oct 2012 11:27

Last seen.....when?

Exact DOB please...........

Were she and Alfred divorced?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 27 Oct 2012 11:28

1911 is this the correct family ?

Name: Clara Elizabeth Marsh
Age in 1911: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Buckingham, Buckinghamshire
Civil parish: Low Leyton
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address: 20 Poplars Road, Walthamstow, Leyton
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration district: North Leyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 268
Piece: 9659
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Walter Marsh 39
Clara Henrietta Marsh 38
Clara Elizabeth Marsh 12
Leslie Hector Charles Marsh 10
Audrey Marsh 9
Reginald John Marsh 7



Do you have her birth cert for her date of birth ?

Potty

Potty Report 27 Oct 2012 11:28

When did the marriage break up?

Gee

Gee Report 27 Oct 2012 11:29

I cant see a birth for twins? Are you sure


1911 England Census
about Audrey Marsh
Name: Audrey Marsh
Age in 1911: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1902
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Buckingham, Buckinghamshire
Civil parish: Low Leyton
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street Address: 20 Poplars Road, Walthamstow, Leyton
Occupation: school
Registration district: West Ham
Registration District Number: 188
Sub-registration district: North Leyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Household schedule number: 268
Piece: 9659
Household Members: Name Age
Charles Walter Marsh 39
Clara Henrietta Marsh 38
Clara Elizabeth Marsh 12
Leslie Hector Charles Marsh 10
Audrey Marsh 9
Reginald John Marsh


Potty

Potty Report 27 Oct 2012 11:32

There is this death but the age is out:

Name: Clara E Felgate
Birth Date: abt 1880
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1967
Age at Death: 87
Registration district: Colchester
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 559

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Oct 2012 11:38

No twin for Audrey:

Births Jun 1902 (>99%)
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BOLTON Harold Buckingham 3a 913
COLES Albert Frederick Buckingham 3a 913
ELLIS John Lancelot Buckingham 3a 913
HALLIDAY Dorothy May Buckingham 3a 913
HIGGS Alexandra May Buckingham 3a 913
Jeffs Albert Edward Buckingham 3a 913
Lovesy Louie Kathleen L Buckingham 3a 913
LOVESY Louio Kathleen L Buckingham 3a 913
Marsh Audrey Buckingham 3a 913
Tompkins Frank Edward Buckingham 3a 913
Whiting Frederick William G Buckingham 3a 913

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 Oct 2012 12:32

Leslie is not a female name

pat

pat Report 27 Oct 2012 12:36

Do not have exact date of birth but know it was March 1899.

She was last seen in the Finchley area around 1940,I have nothing more than this to go on.
Have never been able to find divorce papers but Alfred remarried in 1944 claiming he was a widower !!.
The family shown in the reply is the correct family.That much I have been able to establish.
I probably misread the census as to the twins !!
It has all been very vague after their seperation as Clara's only surviving son has no knowledge of her after she left the family home in Islington.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 27 Oct 2012 12:59

I thought this was familiar:
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1259840

Pat, for future reference - if you are going to post a request for information then first go to the "My Threads" link down the left hand side of these pages and check if you've already made a request about the same thing. If you have, then just add a post to the bottom of that thread and it will move to the front of the boards again. Saves us duplicating work already done.

As has been suggested on both threads it would be extremely helpful to have Clara Elizabeth's exact date of birth. To do this you're going to have to buy a copy of her birth certificate. We can then try searching for deaths registered by first names only with that birth date.

EDIT: I notice in that thread on the link Clara is described as the posters grandmother whereas on this one it is father-in-law's mother. If two people are sharing an account on here even more reason to check "My Threads" to see what the other one has posted!!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 27 Oct 2012 21:21

You probably need to buy some certificates to go further with your query. Starting with Clara's birth certificate to get her exact date of birth.

You could also try looking for descendants of her siblings.

Not seeing an obvious marriage for Leslie but the informant on his death registration may help.

Name: Leslie H C Marsh
Birth Date: abt 1900
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1961
Age at Death: 61
Registration district: Bromley
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 5b
Page: 149


Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 28 Oct 2012 03:49

From the London England, Electoral Registers, it would appear that the couple separated between 1929 & 1931 as from 1931 he was living with the lady who was to become his next wife in 1944


Are these all his marriages?

Marriages Dec 1913
Felgate Alfred R Allen Hackney 1b 973
Allen Elizabeth E Felgate Hackney 1b 973

Marriages Jun 1922
FELGATE Alfred R Marsh Islington 1b 690
MARSH Clara E Felgate Islington 1b 690

Marriages Jun 1944
FELGATE Alfred R Galbally Islington 1b 357
GALBALLY Florence M Felgate Islington 1b 357

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Oct 2012 11:33

You probably already have this but just in case......


Reference:J 77/1686/2468 Description:
Divorce Court File: 2468. Appellant: Alfred Raine Felgate. Respondent: Elizabeth Ethel Felgate. Co-respondent: William George Felgate.
Type: Husband's petition for divorce [hd].
Date: 1920
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
Legal status: Public Record
Language: English

Jim The Ferret

Jim The Ferret Report 28 Oct 2012 11:51

Have you checked the tree on Ancestry owned by Chris Felgate?

Jim

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 28 Oct 2012 13:50

Following on with rootgathers post.........................deviating from the original request, I know, but still info to have ............

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005 about Elizabeth E Felgate
Name: Elizabeth E Felgate
Spouse Surname: Felgate
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1960
Registration district: Stoke Newington
Inferred County: London, Greater London
Volume Number: 5d
Page Number: 1122
Find Spouse: William G Felgate

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 28 Oct 2012 14:10

London, England, Electoral Registers...Hackney > 1932

44 Paragon Road

John-J Barry
Margaret Anna Barry

Clara Felgate

Lilian Parker

Arthur Ranton
Lilian Emma Ranton

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 28 Oct 2012 14:34

Believe this marriage can be discounted:- must of seen it on the other post?


Marriages Dec 1948
Felgate Clara Lambert Samford 4b 2080
Lambert Albert Morris Samford 4b 2080
Lambert Albert Felgate Samford 4b 2080
Lambert Albert Lambert Samford 4b 2080
Lambert Clara Lambert Samford 4b 2080

Marriages Sep 1918
Felgate Albert F Morris Brighton 2b 578
MORRIS Clara Felgate Brighton 2b 578