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Looking for Thomas Foley, b1816 in Staffs. He and several generations worked in one of the glassworks in Staffordshire. The census info only goes back so far! He married a Mary Ann, also from Staffs and had at least 8 children, of whom several sons also followed him into the glass industry. Looking for ANY information of this time and earlier.
Many thanks,
Debi Foley

But how far back have you got? Do you have his marriage cert for example?
Jan

Just for a bit more idea re. location:

1841 England Census
Name: Thomas Foley
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England

Civil parish: Kingswinford
Hundred: North Seisdon
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England

Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Kingswinford

Thomas Foley 25
Mary Foley 25
Harriett Foley 8
William Foley 6
John Foley 4
Mary Foley 1

Maybe

name: Thomas Foley
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 21 Jul 1816
baptism/christening place: SEDGLEY,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Thomas Foley
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Elizabeth

Bur maybe more likely this one

name: Thomas Foley
gender: Male
baptism/christening date: 14 Jun 1812
baptism/christening place: Old Swinford, Worcester, England
birth date:
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: William Foley
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Lucy

if he married Mary Ann Scriven in 1831

groom's name: Thomas Foley
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Mary Ann Scriven
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 07 Aug 1831
marriage place: Old Swinford,Worcester,England

Thanks, I do have the 1841 census details, but no marriage certificate, because Genes only go back to 1837, and he doesn't come up on any Parish records. so I am a bit stuck now!
Thanks,
Debi

We need to know the children so we can get the right Thomas Foley.

See what I mean?
1881 England Census
Name: Thomas Foley
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813
Relation: Relative (Other Relative)
Gender: Male
Where born: Brettell Lane, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Wollaston
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Bridgnorth Road
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Retired Glass Maker <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Stourbridge
Piece: 2890
Folio: 122
Page Number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
James Pargeter 45
Mary Ann Pargeter 41
Lucy Pargeter 16
James Pargeter 14
George Pargeter 10
Thomas Foley 68
Mary A. Foley 66


Because here are 6 children. Is this your man?
1861 England Census
Name: Thomas Foley
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Foley
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Stourbridge
Ecclesiastical parish: Old Swinford
Town: Stourbridge
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Bowling Green Lane
Occupation: Glass maker
Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Stourbridge
Piece: 2066
Folio: 49
Page Number: 13
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Foley 47
Mary Ann Foley 46
Harriet Savage 27
Lucy Foley 18
Thomas Foley 16
Sarah Foley 12
Louisa Foley 9
Jane Foley 7
Mary Savage 2
Albert Foley 1
Thomas Savage 6

1812 is too early date-wise, but the fact that his fathers name was William bears some weight, since that is the name given to the first born son for the next 3 generations!

WOW! I couldn't find them on the 1861 census, just 1841 and 1851. The childrens names I have are: Harriet, 1833. William 1835. John 1837. Mary Ann 1840. Lucy 1843. Thomas 1845. Ann M 1847. Sarah 1849.Louisa 1851. It looks as though it is the right family, thank you.

If it is the above then this is them in 1841, and if Harriet is the eldest child then they were married about 1830.
1841 England Census
Name: Thomas Foley
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Male
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Kingswinford
Hundred: North Seisdon
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: Brockmore
Occupation: Glass maker
Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Kingswinford
Piece: 996
Book: 15
Folio: 43
Page Number: 16
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Foley 25
Mary Foley 25
Harriett Foley 8
William Foley 6
John Foley 4
Mary Foley 1

Edit: Sorry brummie, didn't twig it was the same family as you found.

EDIT - oops, sorry, have duplicated! Will leave info re. Old Swinford.

What about this? According to GENUKI:

'OLDSWINFORD is a parish in the diocese of Worcester. It was historically a large parish in the north of Worcestershire, but also included Amblecote in Staffordshire. It included the township of Stourbridge, now a large town and its own parish. It also included Lye and Wollescote. '


groom's name: Thomas Foley

bride's name: Mary Ann Scriven

marriage date: 07 Aug 1831
marriage place: Old Swinford,Worcester,England

indexing project (batch) number: M04027-1
system origin: England-ODM
source film number: 527938, 527939, 527940, 527942, 527943, 533992, 533993, 533994, 533995, 533996
reference number:

Can't find them in 1871. They're not with the Pargeters or with Harriet who has joined her husband in Durham.

Mary Ann is a widow with the Pargeters in 1891 & 1901.

The only marriage of a Thomas Foley to a Mary Ann is the one I (and Brummiejan) posted between T.F. and Mary Ann Scriven in 1831.
It's very unlikely that Thomas was only 15 when he married - remember that ages were rounded down in 1841.

However it looks like he was born more 1812-1814.

1841 census - c1816 (rounded down to the nearest 5 years) He was more 28 than 25.
1851 - c1813
1861 - c1814
1871 -
1881 - c1813

???
Deaths Mar 1885 Foley Thomas 73 Stourbridge 6c 107 (born c1812)

1841 England Census
Name: Lucy Foley
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1791
Gender: Female
Where born: Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Kingswinford
Hundred: North Seisdon
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: Bottle House Lane (see below)
Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Kingswinford
Piece: 996
Book: 9
Folio: 27
Page Number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
William Foley 50 - Labourer
Lucy Foley 50

Bottle House Lane comes immediately after Chapel Hill, and according to the enumerator's description "... including Siddons Houses back of Brierley Chapel and Chapel Hill. So in Brierley Hill area??

For those who don't know - Thomas's wife, Mary Ann, was born in Brierley Hill; 1841 census address, Brockmoor, is one mile away; Brettell Lane, Thomas's birthplace is 1½ miles; Old Swinford & Stourbridge are both about 3 miles.

1851 England Census
Name: William Foley
Age: 64
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1787
Relation: Widower
Spouse's Name: Emma Warrington [She is actually the wife of the apprentice.)
Gender: Male
Where born: Amblecoat, Staffordshire, England (Less than a mile from Brettel Lane.)
Civil parish: Kingswinford
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: Chapel Hill
Occupation: Glass Maker
Condition as to marriage: Widower
Registration district: Stourbridge
Sub-registration district: Kingswinford
Piece: 2036
Folio: 275
Page Number: 22
Household Members: Name Age
William Foley 64
Edward Warrington 29 - Apprentice
Emma Warrington 30

Didn't know about the rounding down of age in the early census records, so that is helpful. Many thanks to all who have responded, I now have the baptism, marriage and death of Thomas! So I can order the certificates and maybe get further back. Will also check out the other sites mentioned. thank you all! :-D

just for info. all the glass work companies where situated around Stourbridge and Brierley Hill areas.
Also pm'd with a little information on the Foley name from surrounding areas.

Both areas where all the Foleys come from. Does anybody know the names of the glass works please?

from http://blackcountryhistory.org

Royal Brierley Crystal, Brierley Hill
The company of Steven & Williams came into being when William Steven and Samuel Cox Williams leased the Moor Lane Glassworks from their father-in-law, Joseph Silver in 1846. They produced high quality cut crystal and coloured glass. William Steven died in 1869. They started to build a new works a few yard away, in January 1870, due to mine subsidence. The old Moor Lane cone closed and was sold as a pottery in August/September 1870, and production moved to the new site. In 1919 the firm were given the Royal Warrant and the company became Royal Brierley Crystal.