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Sarah Mather born 29.10.1849

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jennifer Report 6 Dec 2012 16:43

Please can anyone help me to find the parents of the above. I believe she had a brother called Frank, but don't know his date of birth.

Sarah is my great grandmother, and the second wife of John Hilton born 24.10.1840. As far as I know, they had two children, Annie Hilton , born 5.1.1875 and James William Hilton born 24.3.1877, at Blackfort Bridge, Bury, Lancashire. (Annie was my fathers mother).

I would be very grateful for any help
Thank you.


brummiejan Report 6 Dec 2012 16:51

For birthplace:

1881 England Census
Name: Sarah Hilton
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Rhodes, Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Little Heaton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address: Manchester Rd Pool Bank
Condition as to marriage: Windower (Widower)

Registration district: Prestwich
Sub-registration district: Prestwich

Sarah Hilton 31
Ann Hilton 6
James Wm. Hilton 4

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Dec 2012 17:02

Sarah Mather
Birth Dec 1849 in Rhodes, Lancashire, England,

Peter Mather 1826 – 1874
Martha Dawson 1829 – 1900

Jun 1873
Age: 23
Marriage to John Hilton

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Dec 2012 17:07

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1847
MATHER Peter - DAWSON Martha
Manchester Cathedral (formerly Manchester Collegiate Church) Manchester

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Dec 2012 17:09

Peter Mather
B:abt 1826 in Lancashire, England
D:Sep 1874 in Greater Manchester, Lancashire, United Kingdom

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Dec 2012 17:10


James Mather 44 - Rhodes, Lancashire
Hannah Mather 40
Fred Mather 12
Martha Mather 62 - mother - Bowlee, Lancashire


Londonbelle Report 6 Dec 2012 17:15

1871 census for Sarah? Note the parish is Rhodes All Saints

Name: Sarah Mather
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Martha Mather
Gender: Female
Where born: Middleton, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Middleton
Ecclesiastical parish: Rhodes All Saints
Town: Middleton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Oldham
Sub-registration district: Middleton
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Household schedule number: 36
Piece: 4107
Folio: 23
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Martha Mather 43 Married
James Mather 24
Sarah Mather 21
Joseph Mather 13

All born Middleton

But no Frank! Why do you think Sarah had a brother Frank?

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Dec 2012 17:20

1861 -

Martha Mather 32
James Mather 14
Sarah Mather 11
Joseph Mather 3

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Dec 2012 17:21


Peter doesn't appear on any census with the family

Abraham Dawson 31 - widower
Elizabeth Dawson 11 -daughter
Isaac Dawson 44 - brother
John Dawson 20 -brother
Martha Mather 22 - sister - married
James Mather 4 - nephew
Sarah Mather 1 - Niece
James Booth 13 - nephew


brummiejan Report 6 Dec 2012 17:30

According to a tree on Ancestry, this is his death. They have his parents as Nathaniel Mather and Alice Brooks:

Name: Peter Mather
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1874
Age at Death: 48
Registration district: Bury
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8c
Page: 353


brummiejan Report 6 Dec 2012 17:32

This is him according to that tree:

1841 England Census about Peter Mather
Name: Peter Mather
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil parish: Middleton
Hundred: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street Address:


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Registration district: Ashton and Oldham
Sub-registration district: Middleton
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 544
Book: 8
Folio: 25
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Nathaniel Mather 40
Alice Mather 35
Peter Mather 15
William Mather 13
Hannah Mather 11
John Mather 7
Nancy Mather 3
Nathaniel Mather 1


Londonbelle Report 6 Dec 2012 17:43

How do you know Sarah's date of birth? Do you have a birth cert for her? If so what does it say?

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Dec 2012 17:52

I think if Jennifer had Sarah's birth cert, she wouldn't be asking who the parents were


Londonbelle Report 6 Dec 2012 17:56

Suppose it could have come from a Family Bible.......

Mike *

Mike * Report 6 Dec 2012 17:56


Sarah Hilton 41 -widow - Rhodes, Lancashire
Annie Hilton 16
James Wm Hilton 14


jennifer Report 8 Dec 2012 20:37

Many thanks to you all for your help. I was thrown by a family history of Darah having a brother called 'Frank''. I am beginning to think he may have been a relative from another branch of the family who was close, and therefore referred to as 'Uncle' as a mark of respect. I had this as my mother was the youngest survivor of 9 children, and she was in her forties when I was born. I referred to most of my first cousins as aunt or uncle out of respect!

This misinformation regarding Frank led me on a wild goose chase, and there are an awful lot of Sarah Mathers born in 1850!

I hope you all have a very Happy Christmas, and good luck and fortune in 2013