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Not heard of after this date my Gt.Gt. G/father in Aberdeenshire, Scotland.
Left his family in pauperhood ( Elizabeth Laird & 3 dtrs) in Aberdour, 1851 Census Can't find his death or his birth. therefore the line is blocked. He married Elizabeth in 1837, in New Deer; was a miller in New Pitsligo in 1841 Census. Where else might I look. Have tried OPR's MI's and census results online.

As civil registration did not begin until 1855 unfortunately only parish or church records are likely to have the answer you seek.

Can you show us both censuses please? There is another couple which seems to fit somewhat so would help to clarify. When was John born?
Jan

1851 Scotland Census
about Elizabeth Laird
Name: Elizabeth Laird
Age: 35
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Aberdour, aberdeensh
Parish Number: 169
Civil parish: Aberdour
Town: New Aberdour
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: High Street
Occupation: Pauper
ED: 2
Page: 10 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 52
Line: 20
Roll: CSSCT1851_42
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Laird 35
Mary Finnie 10
Barbara Finnie 8
Ann Finnie 6
Janet Laird 4

1841 Scotland Census
about George Finnie
Name: George Finnie
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Male
Where born: Aberdeenshire, Scotland

Civil parish: Tyrie
County: Aberdeenshire
Address: New Pitsligo Low Street
Occupation: Miller
Parish Number: 248
Household Members: Name Age
George Finnie 30
Elizabeth Finnie 25
Mary Finnie 1

PM received - have advised Irene to reply on here:

'John Finnie born after the marriage of of his parents George Finnie and Elisabeth Laird in New Deer,(1837) is not with them on the 1841 Census. He can be found with his grandparents John and Barbara Laird. Who are crofters in Ardlawhill croft. For some reason he is never found with them.
He married a Mary Fraser and went to live in Fraserburgh and died in Aberdeen. He was a gasworker at his death.'

Query:

If George Finnie married Elizabeth Laird in 1837 why is it that on the 1851 census is she shown as Elizabeth Laird rather than Elizabeth Finnie?

I also note that the 3 older children (Elizabeth's daughters) aged 10, 8 & 5 present in the 1851 census have the surname Finnie. The youngest female present, Janet aged 4 (Elizabeth;s niece) has the surname Laird.

One tought that I have had is that because Elizabeth is indicated as a pauper presumably she was in receipt of some financial benefit from the local Poor Law authority in the Aberdour area. Have you checked for any records as they might include Elizabeth's application for assistance which in turn might contain details of George Finnie.

It isn't unusual in Scotland for a woman to be recorded in her maiden name after marriage

Irene, please type all replies in box below and click 'submit' rather than sending messages.
Jan

PM

No sign of George after the 1841 census. What is your interest?


Irene

Please reply on here.

I dont have any interest personally, I was seeing if I could help you

As Jonesey has already said, if he died in 1849, you will not find a death record for him

I have no idea why Elizabeth reverted to the Laird name. Divorce??? Did women keep their own name after a divorce in 1851?
How would I find the Poor Law records for the Aberdour area online?
I live in England.
I know that Janet Laird is a neice. Mary however was my great grandmother. She died in Aberdeen around 1918 during the 'flu epidemic.

Thank you all for caring. Thank you for showing me how to contribute to this thread. Thanks for the insight into Scottish maiden names whilst still married.
I still need to know however about the Poor Law Records and how to access them.
I would really like to know how it happened, in 1851, that my gt. Grandmother at 10 yrs old fell into such dire poverty.

1841 census transcription details for: Ardlaw Hill, Ardlaw Hill, Aberdour (Aberdeen)
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National Archive Reference:
RG number:
Piece: 169
Book/Folio: 2
Page: 22
Reg. District:
Sub District:
Parish: Aberdour (Aberdeen)
Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District:
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Ardlaw Hill, Ardlaw Hill, Aberdour (Aberdeen)
County: Aberdeenshire
Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
LAIRD, John M 60 1781 Crofter Aberdeenshire
LAIRD, Barbara F 60 1781 Aberdeenshire
LAIRD, Barbara F 25 1816 Aberdeenshire
FINNIE, John M 3 1838 Aberdeenshire


1851
Piece: SCT1851/169 Place: Aberdour -Aberdeenshire Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Aberdour Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 182 Page: 10 Schedule: 52
Address: High Street

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
LAIRD Elizabeth Head W F 35 Pauper Aberdeenshire - Aberdour
Page: 182/11 FINNIE Mary Daur U F 10 Scholar Aberdeenshire - Tyrie
FINNIE Barbara Daur U F 8 Scholar Aberdeenshire - Tyrie
FINNIE Ann Daur U F 6 Scholar Aberdeenshire - Tyrie
LAIRD Janet Niece U F 4 Aberdeenshire - Rathen

Possible for Elizabeth.

booklet: Kirkyard of Aberdour (AA102)
burial ground: Aberdour

stone: 343
Elizabeth Finnie 15 Jun 1891
John Laird 24 Apr 1895
Jessie Laird n.d.


from http://www.anesfhs.org.uk/databank/miindex/miindex.php


It may be worth your while getting in touch with http://www.anesfhs.org.uk. They will send researchers to look out the Poor Records at Aberdeenshire Archives for a cost.

Thank you. I am already a member of ANESFHS . Will do this.