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Dwyer Scully Family Bradford West Yorkshire

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T

T Report 23 Mar 2013 14:11

I'm at a loss on my family tree with this side of my family. If this rings any bells??

My Grandad was James Anthony Scully born Bradford 1937 died 2009, his brother Keith was born 1935 and died 1935 . His Parents were Catherine (aka cathleen) and James Scully.


Catherines nee name is Dwyer, her mother a Sarah Ann Hefferan (some records have other spellings of the name, could also be Heffernan, Hefferman). There is also a Clarke family linked to the Dwyers with 3 siblings Mary. Kenneth and Laurie (Laurence).

Any help much appreciated

Tracy :-D

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 23 Mar 2013 14:15

Parents' marriage?

Marriages Mar 1935 (>99%)
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Dwyer Catherine Scully Bradford 9b 288
Scully James Dwyer Bradford 9b 288

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 23 Mar 2013 14:17

Grandparents' marriage?

Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%)
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DWYER Alexander Bradford 9b 421
Hefferan Sarah A Bradford 9b 421

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Mar 2013 14:20

T welcome to the boards.

Can you please tell us if you wish to go backwards?

T

T Report 23 Mar 2013 14:23

brill thanks, I am yes

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Mar 2013 14:25

Do you know if all the family was from Yorkshire?

There seems to be quite a lot of Alexander Dwyer's who could be your line.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 23 Mar 2013 14:30

Could this Alec be your Alexander? He's a drayman for the railway. Do you have the marriage certificate with his occupation?

1911 England Census
about Alec Dwyer Name: Alec Dwyer
Age in 1911: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Bradford, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Bradford
County/Island: Yorkshire-West Riding
Country: England
Street Address: 14 Egbert St Bradford Yorks
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Drayman
Registration district: Bradford
Registration District Number: 498
Sub-registration district: Bradford Central
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Piece: 26748
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Dwyer 41
Alec Dwyer 20
Mary Lizzie Dwyer 16
Minnie Dewyer 8
Sarah Ann Boocock 31


T

T Report 23 Mar 2013 14:31

This is where I am lost - theres the possibility they are from Ireland further back, were not sure. As Catherine was born in Bradford I assume her parents are also as she never mentioned her parents as being Irish

Thanks!!!!

T

T Report 23 Mar 2013 14:33

i'll have to have a look into tthis as I haven' got back to Alex/Alec yet - thanks so much!

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 23 Mar 2013 14:36

If this is the family Thomas the father is a Green Grocer.

1901 England Census
about Alexr Dwyer
Name: Alexr Dwyer
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Thomas Dwyer
Gender: Male
Where born: Bradford, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Bradford
Ecclesiastical parish: Bradford St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Bradford East
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 181
Piece: 4148
Folio: 35
Page Number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Dwyer 31 WIDOWER************born Middlesborough Yorks
Alexr Dwyer 10
Mary E Dwyer 5


ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Mar 2013 14:43

1911 census

Person: HEFFERON, Sarah Ann Address: 51 Beamsley St Manningham Bradford Yorkshire

HEFFERON, Sarah Head Widow F 45 1866 Silk Factory Hand Ireland VIEW
HEFFERON, Sarah Ann Daughter Single F 24 1887 Silk Factory Hand Yorks Bradford VIEW
HEFFERON, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 16 1895 Silk Factory Hand Yorks Bradford VIEW
HEFFERON, William Son M 12 1899 Yorks Bradford VIEW
HEFFERON, Margaret Daughter F 6 1905 Yorks Bradford

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Mar 2013 14:44

1891 census


Person: HEFFERMAN, Sarah A Address: 50, Beamsley Street, Manningham, Bradford

HEFFERMAN, James Head Married M 42 1849 General Labourer
Ireland VIEW
HEFFERMAN, Sarah Wife Married F 36 1855
Ireland VIEW
HEFFERMAN, Sarah A Daughter F 4 1887
Manningham, Yorkshire VIEW
HEFFERMAN, James Son M 3 1888
Manningham, Yorkshire VIEW
HEFFERMAN, John Son M 2 1889
Manningham, Yorkshire VIEW
HEFFERMAN, Mary Daughter F 0 (4M) 1891
Manningham, Yorkshire VIEW
GLEESON, Sarah Mother In Law Widow F 55 1836
Ireland

T

T Report 23 Mar 2013 14:47

this is def making more sense now - i'll get to matching this up - <3 <3 :-D

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Mar 2013 14:52

Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)
Gleason Sarah Bradford, Y. 9b 314
Hefferan James Bradford, Y. 9b 314

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 23 Mar 2013 18:30

There are Military Records for Alexander Dwyer who married Sarah Ann Hefferman on 8 July 1911 at the Register Office, Manor Row, Bradford. There is one child Catherine born 3 March 1915 Bradford.

It looks like Alexander joined up on 26 April 1915 and his age was 24yrs & 140 days and occupation was Carter. He lived at 55 Aldophus Street, Wakefield Rd, Bradford

Bradford Battlion West Yorkshire Regiment; Regimental No 998

T

T Report 23 Mar 2013 19:11

@ Londonbelle - thank you, that bit of info has matched all the bits and pieces I had together

- some of it is a little hard to place but you all have done a fab job, I am thankful for all of your time and help!!

T

T Report 24 Mar 2013 10:39

im looking at Scully side of tree (Bradford Yorkshire).

There is a catherine Armstrong (abt 1891-1925) married to John Scully (1890-1921) it looks as though she had 2 children after John died ( Marie and William)father unknown but they still had Scully surname.

I have found a William Scully(1924 - 1994) who married an agnes, they had 3 children who I believe to be Kevin, Shaun and Tracy.

Struggling to find what happened to Marie Scully (b 1925)?????

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Mar 2013 10:45

Hi T, you'll often come across cases where a widow gave birth to children after the death of her husband (sometimes many years after) they would be recorded in the surname of the late father because that was the mother's surname when she gave birth. You may even find that her late husband is named as the father on the birth certificate even when it's not humanly possible - probably all to do with maintaining dignity.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 24 Mar 2013 10:48

A different area, but not impossible:

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
Name: Marie Scully
Birth Date: abt 1925
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1926
Age at Death: 1
Registration district: Manchester North
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 475

T

T Report 24 Mar 2013 10:48

thanks for the tip! :-D