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Hi
Thanks for trying clarify my father was the son of John Mcguinness and Mary Daly her middle name was Teresa, John was listed as living at home as they did not marry until 10th April 1911 possibly just after the census.
In 1907 he could have been in jail as there was family conflict due to the association of John and Mary Mastersons lane was small terrace of houses off Charlemont Row, my fatherwas baptised after his father John Joseph.
It seems that all is coming clear now I need to start on James and Catherines (Kate)
Parents.
Thank you so much for you help I may take another visit to Dublin.

George...Whats confusing you..I'll see if I can help further..

If your father was born Masterson's Lane then both the 1901/1911 show the only McGuiness family living there at the time....

Your father born 1911 was son of John McGuiness and Mary Daly....
John (23) is listed 1911 as being single living with parents James and Kate.
John (18) was in Mountjoy 1907.He gives his address as per Census also place of birth as Charlemont Row as per address at Baptism
John was Baptised 1888 as "John Joseph" son of James McGuiness and Kate Lennon.

Thanks for all the input still a bit confused but will sort it out youseem to be able to find it better than me

George

The following would confirm address family were living when John was Baptised.....For info......Mastersons Lane aka Keegans Cottages was off Charlemont Row

Name: John Mcguinness
Also Known As Name: Kate Mcguinness
Role of Individual: Prisoner
Event Type: Prison
Event Date: 1907
Event Place: Mountjoy, Dublin, Ireland
Residence Place: 4 Mastersons La
Age: 18
Birthplace: Charlemont Row
Birth Year (Estimated): 1889
Prison: Mountjoy
Offense: Threat Behavr

This is the marriage of the sponsors of Christopher....

Husband Wife
Name CHRISTOPHER MC GUINESS and ESTHER EUSTACE
Address 46 BRIDE ST ............................ 80 COOMBE
Occupation N/R N/R
Father CHRISTOPHER MC GUINESS ...... MICH EUSTACE
Mother MARY .......................................... JANE

It is possible the above Christopher was brother to James in which case father was named Christopher and that would follow given James named his eldest son Christopher if he followed the tradition Irish naming pattern.

George...This is Christophers Baptism...the family were living Bride St.at the time...sponsors were Christopher and Esther Eustace McGuiness....(note youngest daughter of James and Cath. named Esther on 1911 Census)

Name CHRISTOPHER JOSEPH MC GUINESS
Date of Birth 28 January 1880
Address 57 BRIDE ST
Father JAMES MC GUINESS
Mother CATHERINE LENNON

They were living Charlemont Row at the time of John Josephs Baptism 1888 and Mary Christina's 1895.

George...1911 Census.

John obviously married Mary Daly after the Census...the date of your fathers birth should give an indication of when...

Residents of a house 4.1 in Masterson's Lane (Fitzwilliam, Dublin)
McGuinness James 50 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic General Labourer - Married - 32 8 8
McGuinness Catherine 50 Female Wife Roman Catholic
McGuinness Christopher 31 Male Son Roman Catholic Poulterer
Married - - - -
McGuinness James 28 Male Son Roman Catholic
Drapers Porter - Married - - - -
**McGuinness John 23 **Male Son Roman Catholic Dublin City Grocers Porter Single - - - -
McGuinness William 19 Male Son Roman Catholic Dublin City Messenger
Single - - - -
McGuinness Catherine 26 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Laundress - Married - 3 - -
McGuinness Mary 16 Female Daughter Roman Catholic General Domestic Servant - Single - - - -
McGuinness Margaret 8 Female Daughter Roman Catholic Dublin City Scholar Cannot Read - Single - - - -
McGuinness Easter 5 Female Daughter Roman Catholic

I think Catherine (26) should read Daughter in Law from what I can work out from original




Does the above help at all...?

Details needed
James McGuinness wife Catherine Lennon need confirmation of Marrige and Jame's father / mother details as there is confusion about dates I have them Married 1861 and another that they were born 1861,
I know this is my family from my fathers birth certificate which tells me that father was the John son of James, my father was born 1911 at 4.3 Mastersons Lane.
I hope this clarifies what I am looking for. and thanks for trying to help.

Regards George

George...

This is the McGuiness family (Masterson's Lane)...who are you actually trying to find...?

Am getting a bit confused here......

James and ? Cath. Lennon McGuiness (1901)

Residents of a house 4.3 in Mastersons Lane (Fitzwilliam, Dublin)

Mc Guinness Katie 16 Female Daughter R Catholic Dublin City Working in Factory Guinness Mary 5 Female Daughter R Catholic Dublin City Scholar
Mc Guinness James 39 Male Head of Family Roman Catholic Dublin City Mill Sawyer Read and write - Married -
Mc Guinness John 12 Male Son R Catholic Dublin City Scholar Read and write - Guinness Christopher 21 Male Son R Catholic Dublin City Fruiterer Messenger Read only - Not Married -
Mc Guinness William 8 Male Son R Catholic Dublin City Scholar Cannot read - Not Married -
Mc Guinness Catherine 38 Female Wife Roman Catholic

Thanks for the information I had my father born in Mastersons Lane Dublin, his father John is the son of James and Catherine but cannot find confirmation of other children or their parents.

Name: Mcguinness
Gender: Male
Christening Date:
Christening Place:
Birth Date: 29 Jan 1880
Birthplace: Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
Father's Name: James Mcguinness
Mother's Name: Catherine Lennon Mcguinness
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04320-5
System Origin: Ireland-EASy
GS Film number: 256045
Reference ID: p772 r373

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Presumably this is them baptising one of their children?





child: Mcguinness

Name Mcguinness
Gender Male
Christening Date
Christening Place
Birth Date 29 Jan 1880
Birthplace Dublin, Dublin, Ireland
Death Date
Name Note
Race
Father's Name James Mcguinness
Father's Birthplace
Father's Age
Mother's Name Catherine Lennon Mcguinness

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Area - DUBLIN (RC) , Parish/Church/Congregation - ST. ANDREW

Marriage of JAMES MAGUINESS of 2 BOYNE ST and CATHERINE LENNON of 9 DEVLINS ST on 26 August 1861

Name JAMES MAGUINESS CATHERINE LENNON
Address 2 BOYNE ST 9 DEVLINS ST
Occupation N/R N/R
Father RICHARD MAGUINESS JOHN LENNON
Mother ELIZA and JULIA
Further details in the record
Priest GREGORY LYNCH
Witness 1 CHARLES MC CABE
Witness 2 ANNA BRADY


From http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie

My father was John Joseph McGuinness his father was John McGuinness married to Mary Daly, his father was James McGuinness married to Catherine Lennon I need information on James and Catherine's parents, or contacts from anyone who may think they are related and live in Dublin.