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Treggiden family tree

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ann

ann Report 8 Oct 2013 23:11

I am trying to link parts of my tree. I am looking for a connection between Ellen Agnes Treggiden born in 1885 and Thomas Treggiden 1789-1835 There is a generation inbetween its just finding out who is the missing link. Also can anyone advise me on how can I obtain adoption records from the 1940's. Thank you Ann. apoligies if this is wrong this is 1st time posting :-S

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Oct 2013 23:15

Only the adoptee can obtain their adoption records and when an adopted child dies their file is closed.

How does adoption in the 1940 equate with the Treggiden enquiry?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Oct 2013 23:18

could she be treggiden by marriage?
Name: Ellen Treggiden
Age in 1911: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Ross
Civil Parish: Paddington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 11 Hasborough Street, Westbourne Terrace North, Paddington
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 1
Estimated Marriage Year: 1910
Registration District: Paddington
Registration District Number: 1
Sub-registration District: Paddington Central
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Piece: 58
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Francis Treggiden 31
Ellen Treggiden 25
Thomas William Treggiden 0

Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 58.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Oct 2013 23:20

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Ellen Agnes Treggiden
Name: Ellen Agnes Treggiden
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1909
Registration District: St Marylebone
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 1237
Records on Page:
Name
Stewart Armour
Gabrielle Matilda Crosse
Gabrielle Matilda Michell
Frederick George Scales
Ellen Agnes Treggiden

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Oct 2013 23:27

Ellen on 1911 census is Ellen Wilkenson looking at the marriage on Ancestry

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Oct 2013 23:32

Following on from the marriage posted by Shirley

1911
Name: Ellen Agnes Scales
Age in 1911: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 12 St Thomas Bldgs, Barrett St, Wigmore St, W
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 2
Estimated Marriage Year: 1909
Occupation: HOUSE WIFE
Registration District: St Marylebone
Registration District Number: 7
Sub-registration District: St Mary
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Piece: 556
Household Members: Name Age
Frederick George Scales 25
Ellen Agnes Scales 26
Agnes Margerete Scales 22
Edward Frederick Scales 0

patchem

patchem Report 8 Oct 2013 23:33

If this is the Thomas Tregidden, how did you get back to him?
Thanks.
from familysearch.org
father:Thos. Tregidion
mother:Mary
NameThomas Tregidion
GenderMale Christening Date11 Oct 1789
Christening PlaceSAINT AUSTELL,CORNWALL,ENGLAND
Father's NameThos. Tregidion
Indexing Project (Batch) NumberP01651-1
System OriginEngland-ODM
GS Film number0246827-0246831

I would have thought more than 1 generation between someone born in 1789 and someone born in 1885.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Oct 2013 23:33

How do you know that Ellen Agnes is connected in anyway to Thomas ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Oct 2013 23:43

??

Name: Helen Agnes Treggiden
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1885
Registration District: Marylebone
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 597


On 1901 census as Ellen born Paddington

ann

ann Report 8 Oct 2013 23:49

This is the Ellen Agnes Treggiden she was born in 1885, and married in 1909 to Frederick john Scales their child Thomas W Scales born 1913 Married Gwyneth (Jeannie) Rees in 1936 Their Daughter is the one I have been asked about Sandra Ann Scales born in 1942 she was re-registered in 1944 When the mother got married to John G lyons Sandra A Scales seems to have had her records changed to lyons. I have been asked if I am related by the person searching the scales records. To Trace if Ellen Agnes is related to me I need to find her Parents. At the moment I have lots of names but nothing linking them I am hoping that I can match the other branches of the tree to mine. Thank you for your help its so confusing to start.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 8 Oct 2013 23:55

Do you have the 1909 marriage cert for the name and occupation of her father ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Oct 2013 00:03

1891 but need to check the image

Name: Ellen Hagedorn
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Hagedorn
Mother's Name: Elizth Hagedorn
Gender: Female
Where born: Marylebone, London, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration District: Marylebone
Sub-registration District: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 99
Folio: 57
Page Number: 45
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Hagedorn 39
Elizth Hagedorn 37
Thomas Hagedorn 10
Lewis Hagedorn 9
Francis Hagedorn 7
Ellen Hagedorn 5
William Hagedorn 3
Agne Hagedorn 1

Class: RG12; Piece: 99; Folio: 57; Page: 45; GSU Roll: 6095209.

Yes looks like the family

All shown as born marylebone

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Oct 2013 00:05

Births Mar 1881 (>99%)
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TREGGIDEN Edward Thomas Marylebone 1a 632

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Births Sep 1881 (>99%)
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Treggiden Lewis John Marylebone 1a 616

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Births Sep 1883 (>99%)
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Treggiden Francis Edward Marylebone 1a 596

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Births Sep 1885 (>99%)
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Treggiden Helen Agnes Marylebone 1a 597

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Births Sep 1887 (>99%)
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TREGGIDEN William Clement Marylebone 1a 616

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Births Dec 1889 (>99%)
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Treggiden Agnes Margaret Marylebone 1a 576

ann

ann Report 9 Oct 2013 00:13

Patcham, Yes the thomas Treggiden mothers name is Mary Nee Clemes My family originated in cornwall. Glitterbaby I have not started to get certificates yet. His son Thomas Clemes treggiden born 1816 was married twice and had a few children one of whom is my direct ancestor Louis John Treggiden. My cousin has done a lot of research already and I am trying to get all the branches attatched to the tree which is quite hard.

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Oct 2013 00:25

Do you have access to Ancestry ?


Marriages Sep 1873 (>99%)
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Treggiden Thomas Clement Marylebone 1a 1101

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Marriages Dec 1880 (>99%)
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Treggiden Thomas Clemes Marylebone 1a 975



The second marriage is on Ancestry and he married as a widow



Name: Thomas Clemes Treggiden
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 2 Jan 1853
Father's Name: Thomas Clemes Treggiden
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Treggiden
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone Christ Church
Borough: Westminster
Register Type: Parish Registers

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Oct 2013 00:27

Name: Thomas Clemes Treggiden
Age: Full Age
Spouse Name: Eliza Everall
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 27 Jun 1842
Parish: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster
Father Name: Thos Treggiden
Spouse Father Name: Richd Everall
Register Type: Parish Register

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 9 Oct 2013 00:34

1861 poss
Name: Thomas Treggiden
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1818
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Treggiden
Gender: Male
Where born: St Columb Major

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration District: Marylebone
Sub-registration District: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 113
Piece: 86
Folio: 164
Page Number: 18
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Treggiden 43
Elizabeth Treggiden 43
Thomas Treggiden 9 born Marylebone
Lewis Treggiden 7
Ann Treggiden 4
Edward Treggiden 2
William Masters 19

Class: RG 9; Piece: 86; Folio: 164; Page: 18; GSU roll: 542571.

ann

ann Report 9 Oct 2013 00:46

no access to ancestrey thank you for all the research you are turning up there are even more relations than I thought.

ann

ann Report 9 Oct 2013 00:54

glitterbaby you have the listing which includes my great great grandfather The william Masters on the list is from the first Marriage of Elizabeth are you getting this info from ancestry?