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James Crow and Jane Strachan

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Alexandra

Alexandra Report 28 Nov 2013 01:03

Has anyone got information on James Crow and Jane Strachan married in Montrose Scotland 1823.

Dougieb1

Dougieb1 Report 28 Nov 2013 06:09

If you go into the site "familysearch.org" which is a free site you will get a list of the 8 daughters that this union produced.
To pursue your search further you would have to purchase credits from Scotlands People.
30 credits cost £7-00 but you are able to view the original documents.

Regards,

Doug.

BeverleyW

BeverleyW Report 28 Nov 2013 07:52

1841

Piece: SCT1841/312 Place: Montrose -Angus Enumeration District: 9
Civil Parish: Montrose Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 9 Page: 24
Address: Ramsay Street

CROW James M 35 Ropemaker Jrnyman Angus
CROW Jane F 35 Angus
CROW Mary F 15 Flax Spinner Angus
CROW Ann F 13 Flax Spinner Angus
CROW Margaret F 11 Angus
CROW Christina F 9 Angus
CROW Agnes F 7 Angus
CROW Adamina F 5 Angus
CROW Susan F 3 Angus
CROW Elizabeth F 1 Angus

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Nov 2013 08:38

What 'information' are you hoping for?

How much research have you done yourself?

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 28 Nov 2013 08:45


1851
Name: Jane Crow
Age: 41
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Montrose, forfarshire
Parish Number: 312
Civil Parish: Montrose
County: Angus
Address: 10 Paton's Lane
ED: 21
Page: 3 (click to see others on page)
Household Schedule Number: 14
Line: 11
Roll: CSSCT1851_68
Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Crow 41
Margaret Crow 19
Christina Crow 18
Agnes Crow 16
Adamena Crow 14
Susan Crow 12
Elizabeth Crow 10
Alexa Crow 7
Mary Jane Brown 1


1861 Scotland Census about Mrs Crow
Name: Mrs Crow
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Female
Where born: Montrose, Forfarshire
Registration number: 282/1
Registration District: Dundee First District
Civil Parish: Dundee
Town: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 6
ED: 1
Household Schedule Number: 51
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1861_38
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary S Miller 30
Alese Miller 7
John Miller 5
Isabella Miller 3
Mrs Crow 57
Adamina Crow 22
Alexander Crow 17

Still living with Mary, who now appears to be her eldest daughter
1871 Scotland Census about Jane Crowe
Name: Jane Crowe
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803
Relationship: Mother
Gender: Female
Where born: Montrose, Forfarshire
Registration number: 282/3
Registration District: St Clement
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 6 Commercial Street
ED: 13
Household Schedule Number: 49
Line: 8
Roll: CSSCT1871_51
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Guthrie 42
John Thompson Miller 15
Isabella Miller 13
Mary Guthrie 9
Adamina Guthrie 7
James Guthrie 3
Richard Guthrie 2
Jane Crowe 68
Elizabeth Crowe 26
Alexa Crowe 23

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Nov 2013 22:29

From deceasedonline who cover Angus very well


last name Crow
first names Jane
Burial date 17 Oct 1871
Authority
Location
Montrose Old Cemeteries (Angus)



rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Nov 2013 22:36

Possible for James - again from deceasedonline.

You can buy credits to find out who is buried in the same lair.


last name Crow
first names James
Burial date 11 Apr 1850
Authority
Location
St Marys and St Peters Churchyard (Angus) (Montrose)

Cynthia

Cynthia Report 29 Nov 2013 15:26

Hello Alexandra and welcome to the Community boards. :-)







I will let Alexandra know that she has replies to her query. :-)

Alexandra

Alexandra Report 30 Nov 2013 18:14

Thank you everyone for your replies. It has helped.
Their daughter Agnes Scott Crow was my gr. grandmother who married Joseph Petrie. I have been unable to find James or Jane`s birth certificates to get their parents names. Can anyone help? Thank you

GlasgowLass

GlasgowLass Report 30 Nov 2013 20:34

Based on the info found on Family Search , this ais the family of James Crow and Jane/Jean Strachan who married in Montrose, Angus on 7 Dec 1823.
It looks as if they had a family of daughters and no sons.

As Jane was still living at 1871, there will be a statutory death record which should confirm the names of both parents.
However:

father: John Strachan
mother: Christian Smith***
Name ***Jean Strachan***
Gender Female
Christening Date 10 Jun 1803
Christening Place FARNELL,ANGUS,SCOTLAND
Birth Date 10 Jun 1803

This is the birth of James and Jame's daughter
father: James Crow
mother: Jane Strachan
Name ***Christina Smith Crow***
Gender Female
Christening Date
Christening Place
Birth Date 11 Aug 1831
Birthplace MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND
Indexing Project (Batch) Number C11312-4
System Origin Scotland-ODM
GS Film number 993498
Reference ID

Only Jane's death cert will confirm if her parents were John Strachan and Christian/Christina Smith
EDIT:
I forgot to say....
pre 1855, there were no birth records kept.
If you are fortunate, there may be a record of a baptism.
Odd?
All the children born to James and Jane can be found of FS showing only their DOB which must have come from their baptisms, yet, not one of them has a baptismal date showing ???
Are these submitted entries?

alviegal

alviegal Report 2 Dec 2013 11:41

This is a list from an ancestral file on familysearch of your g grandmother's children. The middle names are usually family surnames. So there appears to be a Smith, Strachan, Crow, Scott and Chalmers connection.

It's obvious where the Crow and Strachan came from.




James CROW
birth: 1807
death:
Jane STRACHAN
birth: 1811
death:



Agnes Scott CROW
birth: 19 September 1833
Montrose, Angus, Scot
death: 18 May 1906
Dundee, Angus, Scot
more

spouse:
Joseph PETRIE
christening: 7 November 1831
marriage: 12 December 1856
death: 26 May 1906




Williamina PETRIE
birth: 7 September 1857
death:
John PETRIE
birth: 29 October 1859
death: 24 March 1866
Josephine PETRIE
birth: 26 August 1862
death: 31 October 1937
James Crow PETRIE
birth: 19 January 1865
death: 22 May 1915
Agnes Crow PETRIE
birth: 13 March 1867
death:
John Strachan PETRIE
birth: 26 April 1869
death:
Jeannie (Twin) PETRIE
birth: about 1871
death: about 1871
-- (Twin) PETRIE
birth: about 1871
death: 20 July 1871
Adamina Crow Smith PETRIE
birth: 30 November 1872
death: 26 January 1873
Adam Smith PETRIE ;[twin]
birth: 24 September 1875
death:
Joseph (Twin) PETRIE
birth: 24 September 1875
death: 2 August 1906
George Chalmers PETRIE
birth: 3 December 1876
death: 17 December 1876
Isabella Chalmers PETRIE
birth: about 1878
death:



EDIT Chalmers is from the Petrie line. Joseph's parents.




John Petrie
birth: 10 September 1797
death: 15 August 1874
Isabella Chalmers
birth: 16 October 1801
death: after 1874

alviegal

alviegal Report 2 Dec 2013 11:56

James and Jane's daughters.


Mary Jane Crow

Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 5 August 1825 MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND

father: James Crow
mother: Jane Strachan


Christina Smith Crow

Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 11 August 1831 MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND

father: James Crow
mother: Jane Strachan


Elizabeth Greig Crow

Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 26 September 1839 MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND

father: James Crow
mother: Jane Strachan


Margaret Crow

Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 8 June 1829 MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND

father: James Crow
mother: Jane Strachan


Alexa Crow

Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 13 December 1843 MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND

father: James Crow
mother: Jane Strachan


Anne Crow

Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 1 July 1827 MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND

father: James Crow
mother: Jane Strachan


Agnes Scott Crow

Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 19 September 1833 MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND

father: James Crow
mother: Jane Strachan


Adamina Crow

Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

birth: 17 August 1835 MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND

father: James Crow
mother: Jane Strachan


So you have Smith, Scott and Greig as possible family surnames.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Dec 2013 12:24

Civil Registration didn't come into force in Scotland until 1855..........so you will not be able to get certs.......only baptism records

Alexandra

Alexandra Report 2 Dec 2013 16:35

Thanks. I really appreciate all this. I have managed to get a lot of info.now . Jane Crow (Strachan) died in 1871 aged 70 Mother was Mary Burns and Father was Charles Strachan . Spouse James Crow Sailmaker. Now I can start getting some B and D certificates. Thanks again.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 2 Dec 2013 18:41

as Reggie said you will not be able to get certificates before 1855

but here is Jane's 1802 baptism for example

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XB63-78Q

and you can view the original parish record at http://scotlandspeople.gov.uk for a fee

here is the Strachan Burn marriage

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTKS-VYW

and again the parish record should give you lots more information about them

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 3 Dec 2013 12:17

Parish records may not actually give much more information. The amount of detail on these varied from parish to parish. Sometimes they only include the name of the groom and the bride and date of marriage with no further information. Sometimes the name and occupation of the bride's father is given.