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Moreland's from Grey Abbey, Co. Down

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Sharlene

Sharlene Report 2 Feb 2014 02:22

I am researching Alex Moreland born 1879, married to Mary Jane Keenan. They have 3 children, John, Andrew and Elizabeth He was a pig farmer in Grey Abbey. His father was John, I believe his mother was Margaret Atcheson.. I know that Mary Jane and Alex were married about 1902. They lived in Muirkirk Scotland for some time, Alex worked in the mines.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Sharlene

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 2 Feb 2014 02:45

Hi Sharlene, you maybe already have these but just incase....

Web: Ireland, Census, 1911 about Alexander Moreland
Name: Alexander Moreland
Gender: Male
Age: 32
Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation to Head: Head
Residence Date: 2 Apr 1911
Residence Place: Grey Abbey Town, Grey Abbey, Down, Ireland
Household Members:
Name Age
Alexander Moreland 32.....Ag Lab
Mary Jane 31
Lizzie Moreland 7.....Scotland
John Moreland 5.....Scotland
Andrew Moreland...11 months.....County Down

All able to read and write

Try http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ for John and Elizabeth birth


Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958 about Alex Moreland
Name: Alex Moreland
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1902
Registration District: Newtownards
Volume: 1
Page Number: 1095
FHL Film Number: 101260
Records on Page:
Name
Alex Moreland
Mary Jane Keenan


Misty x

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 2 Feb 2014 02:57


Ireland, Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911 about Alexander Moreland
Name: Alexander Moreland
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 6 Jul 1877
Birth Place: Cardy, Down, Ireland
Father's Name: John Moreland
Mother's Name: Margaret Moreland Aitcheson
FHL Film Number: 255986


Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 about Alexander Moreland
Name: Alexander Moreland
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1915
Death Age: 37
Registration District: Newtownards
Death Country: Ireland
Volume: 1
Page: 478
FHL Film Number: 0101606

Misty x

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 2 Feb 2014 03:08

ths and Baptisms, 1620-1911 about Mary Jane Keenan
Name: Mary Jane Keenan
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 12 Apr 1880
Birth Place: Greyabbey, Down, Ireland
Father's Name: Samuel Keenan
Mother's Name: Eliza Jane Keenan Brown
FHL Film Number: 256050


Web: Ireland, Census, 1901 about Mary Jane Kennan
Name: Mary Jane Kennan
Gender: Female
Age: 20
Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Daughter
Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901
Residence Place: Grey Abbey, Greyabby, Down, Ireland
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Kennan 44
Eliza Jane Kennan 45
Elizabeth Kennan 5
Mary Jane Kennan 20
Hugh Kennan
William Kennan 3
John Kennan 12
James Kennan 14
Samuel Kennan 18
Robert Kennan 9

Misty x

Gee

Gee Report 2 Feb 2014 07:17


Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935

Name:John Moreland

Gender:Male

Age:24

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1905

Birth Country:Scotland

Date of Arrival:12 May 1929

Vessel:Doric

Port of Arrival:Quebec

Port of Departure:Belfast, Northern Ireland

Roll:T-14752


Mothers details: Mary J Moreland, Main St, Greyabbey Co Down, Ireland

John is going to a friend, Gilbert McClurg in Shakespear, Ont

Gee

Gee Report 2 Feb 2014 07:30


England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966

Name:Andrew Moreland of: Bally Bolley, Greyabbey, Co Down

Probate Date:15 Apr 1937

Death Date:5 Feb 1937

Death Place:Down, Ireland

Registry:Belfast


Probate to: Robert McClure, Farmer - £1260 3s

Sharlene

Sharlene Report 2 Feb 2014 14:28

Thanks for al the info! The Andrew that died in 1937. would you think he is the brother of Alex or uncle? I have found info for both. How can I apply for the records and will it show more information; parents, wife?
The Keenans raises more questions. I have info from the Keenan side but I am missing the mother of Samuel Keenan born about 1856. Have the marriage record for Eliza and Samuel and his father is listed as Samuel.

So many questions.
Sharlene

Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 2 Feb 2014 14:49

Sharlene.....Given that both spelling of the Kennan/Keenan surname has been transcribed it may be worthwhile considering the following from 1901 Census..(Grey Abbey)

Residents of a house 111 in Grey Abbey (Greyabby, Down)


McCullough Mary Jane 12 Female Grand Daughter Episcopelian Co Down Hem Folder Read and write - Not Married -

McCullough David 16 Male Grand Son Episcopelian Co Down Stone Breaker Read and write - Not Married -

Kennan Jane 68 Female Head of Family Episcopelian Co Down Embroiderer Cannot read


1911.....Jane KEENAN

Residents of a house 21 in Grey Abbey Town (Grey Abbey, Down)

Crommie Margaret J 57 Female Head of Family Church of Ireland Co Down Linen Embroiderer Cannot read - Widow - - - -
McCullough David 26 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Down Agricultural Labourer Read and write - Single - - - -
McCullough Mary Jane 22 Female Daughter Church of Ireland Co Down Linen Embroiderer Read and write - Single - - - -
Crommie Samuel 14 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Down Agricultural Labourer Read and write - Single - - - -
Crommie Alexander 12 Male Son Church of Ireland Co Down Scholar Read and write - Single - - - -
**Keenan Jane 80** Female Mother Church of Ireland Co Down - Cannot read - Single - - - -
Brown Bella 1 Female Grand Daughter Church of Ireland

Looks as if Mary has been married twice....

I think you are going to have a job sorting who is who as there are Aitcheson.s/Keenans/McCullochs/Brown all living around about one another....

Potty

Potty Report 2 Feb 2014 14:56

Just in case you don't have this, Alexander in 1901 - a tree on Ancestry has his son John's birth in Kames Road:


1901 Scotland Census
Alexander Moreland
Age:22
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1879
Relationship:Nephew
Where born:Ireland
Registration District:Muirkirk
Civil Parish:Muirkirk
County:Ayrshire
Address:39 Kames Row No 2
Occupation:Coalminer
Hugh Moreland 54 b Ireland, coal miner
Agnes Moreland 49 b Muirkirk
Andrew Moreland 24 b England
Esther Moreland 15 b Muirkirk
Sarah Moreland 12 b Muirkirk
All children of Hugh & Agnes
Alexander Moreland 22


Eringobragh1916

Eringobragh1916 Report 2 Feb 2014 15:04

This is Margaret "Crommie" 1901.....

Residents of a house 115 in Grey Abbey (Greyabby, Down)

Crommie Francis 25 Male Head of Family Presbyterian Co Down Labourer Cannot read - Married -
Crommie Samuel 4 Male Son Presbyterian Co Down Scholar Cannot read - Not Married -
Crommie Alexander 3 Male Son Presbyterian Co Down - Cannot read - Not Married -
"Crommie Margaret Jane" 44 Female Wife Presbyterian

Gee

Gee Report 2 Feb 2014 15:18

Residents of a house 46 in Grey Abbey (Greyabby, Down)

Keenan Samuel 67 occupation Surface man Male Head of Family Church of Ireland

What is the occupation of Samuel on the marriage certificates of his children?



Possible marriage for him


Ireland, Select Marriages, 1619-1898

Name:Samuel Keenan

Gender:Male

Age:23

Birth Date:1829

Marriage Date:16 Oct 1852

Marriage Place:Newtownards, Down, Ire

Father: John Keenan

Spouse: Mary Milbay

FHL Film Number:101340

Reference ID:2:3Q42GLF


Gee

Gee Report 2 Feb 2014 15:45

Might be worth seeing who registered these deaths


Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958

Name:Mary Keenan

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1833

Date of Registration:Apr-May-Jun 1899

Death Age:66

Registration District:Newtownards

Death Country:Ireland

Volume:1

Page:651

FHL Film Number:101600



Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958

Name:Samuel Keenan

Estimated Birth Year:abt 1832

Date of Registration:Oct-Nov-Dec 1906

Death Age:74

Registration District:Newtownards

Death Country:Ireland

Volume:1

Page:571

FHL Film Number:0101603

Sharlene

Sharlene Report 2 Feb 2014 16:11

On Samuel and Eliza's marriage cert, he occupation is labourer. It is interesting about the embroider, my grandmother was an embroider. She was taught by the Moreland/Keenan family.


Gee

Gee Report 2 Feb 2014 17:20

I'd check out those death certificates, maybe one of the children was the informant

Try Samuels first as he is likely to have been the informant on his wifes death certificate

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 3 Feb 2014 00:10

This site may be use to you...

http://applications.proni.gov.uk/DCAL_PRONI_WillsCalendar/WillsSearch.aspx

Misty x