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Frank Vandenberghe
in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Frank Vandenberghe
Arrival Age: 29
Birth Date: abt 1895
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival date: 12 May 1924
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Cherbourg
Ship Name: Belgenland
Shipping line: Atlantic Transport Line
Official Number: 145433


Labourer.
Citizen of Belgium.

??? Or this one ?

Francois Vandenberghe
in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Francois Vandenberghe
Gender: Male
Age: 32
Birth Date: abt 1893
Departure Date: 24 Apr 1925
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Regina
Shipping line: White Star Dominion Line
Official Number: 140598
Master: R G Smith


citizen of Belgium.

???? Long shot:

EDIT:

No, probably died too early.


Francois Achiel Maria VanDenBergh
in the Global, Find A Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current
Name: Francois Achiel Maria VanDenBergh
Birth Date: 15 Apr 1893
Birth Place: Aalst, Arrondissement Aalst, East Flanders (Oost-Vlaanderen), Belgium
Death Date: 6 Aug 1914
Death Place: Liège, Belgium
Cemetery: Robermont Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Liège, Arrondissement de Liège, Liège, Belgium
Has Bio?: Y

Rang: Soldaat 2 kl mil 1913 Eenheid: A.B.L.

Stamnummer: 109/58623

enlisted 9 Régiment de Ligne/Linieregiment 3 Bn (10 Cie)
Overleden te : Hospitaal, Rue des Rivageois
Gewond op Ougrée "Bois Saint Jean"

To find him in another tree, use the search facility on here

Does anyone know of a Francois Vandenberghe. from Belgium Born about 1893. He was a Soldier in about 1918 Staying in Islington. This is all the info I have. Just wondered if he was on anyone else's tree. Not sure if I have spelt his name correct.

Thank you, yes that is her. That is more tan I could find

Presumably she had a child or children- when/ where was the child born.

Was her child/ children registered in Harrison surname or another surname?

EDIT: on Rootschat:

In 1923 aged 24 she was an unmarried mother and gave birth to a little girl in Paddington, London. A short time later the baby was given up for adoption and I can find no trace of Lily after that date.

I'm trying to find out about Lily Blanche Elizabeth Harrison, Born 14 Aug 1899 in Stockwell England. She was my grandmother, last known 1911 Census
Any info after that I would be grateful

I have the marriage cert of George & Margaret, but it says they are 40 years old in1861 that means Margaret was over 60 when she had Elizabeth.
I think my Margaret was born in about 1854
Glynis

The George Richards/Margaret Burns marriage is on Ancestry; George is shoemaker (Engineer on census); Margaret is a Widow, nee Kearney.

Going back from the 1891 census, this is that family in 1881 - Margaret is probably too young to be Benjamin's mother:


Benjamin Richards

Age:12
Estimated Birth Year:abt 1869
Relationship to Head:Son
Father:Geo. Richards
Mother:Margaret Richards
Where born:Pembrokeshire, Wales
Civil Parish:West Ham
County/Island:Essex
Street Address:3 Pragel St
Geo. Richards 41
Margaret Richards 27
Benjamin Richards 12
Fredk. Richards 6
Henry Richards 5

Possibly George was married before.

Does she name her father on the marrige cert ?

Name: Jonas Butcher
Spouse Surname: Richards
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1913
Registration District: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume Number: 4a
Page Number: 755
Records on Page:
Name
Jonas Butcher

Elizabeth Richards

above already posted I know but added agian to refer to


Is this the birth cert you got ?

Name: RICHARDS, Elizabeth Agnes
Registration district: West Ham
County: Essex
Year of registration: 1883
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no: 4A
Page no: 92A

does her dads name cross check with the marriage cert ?

PM recd


Thirza was born in June 1852 in Rivenhall. I have details on her but I am stuck on the Richards family. I have Elizabeth A Richards bith cert.
It says her dad was George William Richards And her mum was Margaret Burns.
The only marriage with these names I can find, says that they were 40 years old when they married, that means margaret was 68 approx when she had Elizabeth, this is where I am stuck,

How sure are you that the birth certs you got is the right one?

Thanks to everyone who sent me info on the Richards family,
I am an old lady, awaiting for my sons help on this, New to me.
Glynis

Hello Glynis and welcome to the Community boards.






note: I will let Glynis know that she has replies to her query :-)

Butcher Thirza
Burial date 03 June 1912
London Borough of Newham
West Ham Cemetery (Newham)

(on below, if relating)

https://www.deceasedonline.com/servlet/GSDOSearch


Deaths Jun 1912 (>99%)
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Butcher Thirza 53 Edmonton 3a 514

Chris :)

Looks good Reggie but they must have told porkies on her birth cert implying they were married.

Wonder what their marital status was on the marriage cert. Maybethough they just didnt marry till later

Have you located Thurza,s birth cos am going around in circles looking for her

Name: William Ross Richards
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1902
Registration District: West Ham
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 66

There is a birth for William Ross Richards in Dec 1902 West Ham but doesn't seem to be one for William Butcher. Are the two Williams in the 1911 the same boy?

Need some feedback from Glynis.