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Scrivens Family Tree - Adoption Based. Need help

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 Mar 2014 05:57

This looks as if it is Ernest Edward in 1911, living with his mother and step-father .............. it does say Step Son on the image not Stepsister!


1911 Census

Name: Ernest Edward Scrivens
Age in 1911: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Stepsister
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Stirchley, Warwickshire
Civil Parish: North Bromsgrove
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address: The Elms, Eachway, Rednal Nr Bromsgrove, B'Gham
Registration district: Bromsgrove
Registration District Number: 382
Sub-registration district: Bromsgrove
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Household schedule number: 108
Piece: 17786

Walter George Homer 45 b.ca 1866, Birmingham, Dairy Farmer
Jessie Homer 33 b.ca 1878, Clun, Shropshire
Myra Eveline Homer 11
Edith Deborah Homer 9
Georgina Homer 6
Walter Homer 4
Mary Barbara Homer 6/12
Ernest Edward Scrivens 14



haha .................. this was a second marriage for Walter George Homer.

Ernest Edward was the child of his first wife!!!


Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)

GOUGH Jessie King's N. 6c 749 Scan available - click to view
HOMER Walter George King's N. 6c 749 Scan available - click to view


The first marriage ....................

Marriages Mar 1898 (>99%)

HOMER Walter George King's N. 6c 459
Scrivens Emily King's N. 6c 459


Ernest Edwards' birth registration .................

Births Dec 1896 (>99%)

Scrivens Ernest Edward King's N. 6c 415

Harvey

Harvey Report 9 Mar 2014 05:51

Thankyou so much for this help Sylvia! I will try to hunt for elsa's birth cert now!

As for Verna Scrivens (my fathers sister) I have been unable to find anything other than a birth certificate - I suspect her name was changed when she too was adopted. Is there anyway to hunt down further information here? Or is it a dead end?

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 Mar 2014 05:46

IF Elsa's parents were indeed Ernest Edward Scrivens and Annie Emma, then he died "on war service" in early 1939 .................. the following is his Probate Record from ancestry



England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 about Ernest Edward Scrivens

Name: Ernest Edward Scrivens
Probate Date: 22 Apr 1940
Death Date: 8 Sep 1939
Death Place: Birmingham, West Midlands, England
Registry: Birmingham, England


from the image:-

of 7 Woodbine Croft, Sheldon, Birmingham 26, died 8 September on war service. Administration granted at Birmingham on 22 April 1940 to Annie Emma Scrivens, widow. Effects £275 1s 6d



You really need to get Elsa's birth certificate to get the names of her parents, and the actual date of her birth

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 9 Mar 2014 05:36

possible marriage for Elsa???


from www.freebmd.org.uk/


Marriages Mar 1948 (>99%)

Scrivens Elsa N Smith Southampton 6b 1289
Smith Alexander S Scrivens Southampton 6b 1289


Elsa's birth was registered in the March quarter of 1926, which means that she could have been born between mid-November 1925 and end of March 1926 ........... parents ahve 6 weeks in which to register a birth


Births Mar 1926 (>99%)

Scrivens Elsa N Hughes Birmingham S. 6d 306

Harvey

Harvey Report 9 Mar 2014 04:23

Hi All,

I have a very tricky family tree i was hoping i could get some assistance with.

My father Terence Scrivens born 1946. He was adopted and name changed to DAVID OUTTEN. I have found out he had a sister - Verna Scrivens 1943 - who was also put up for adoption (but I've no idea if there was a name change etc)

Through speaking with my dad (when he was alive) he told me his mothers name was ELSA Scrivens born 1925. He also said she married in the SMITH family *sigh* and the relocated to Southampton where she passed away.

Elsa Scrivens, i believe her parents were Ernest Edward Scrivens Born approx 1896 and Annie Emma Hughes approx 1900.

If anyone can offer some assistance here to help me clarify my tree that would be great. I have particular interest in finding more information about Verna Scrivens (My Aunty) but i understand this won't be easy.

Please feel free to request a look at my family tree as it stands.

Thankyou all.

Harvey