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Nimrod Gardner from Bugbrooke to Birkenhead

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brigid

brigid Report 24 Apr 2014 12:43

Hi I'm looking for descendants of Nimrod Gardner b1827 Bugbrooke
I have death certificate of his daughter Caroline 1893 in Birkenhead
and census for him with his wife Mary (b1830 scotland) and children from 1861 to 1901 .
Nimrod worked on the railways died in 1910 aged 83 in Greenfield st birkenhead
would like to know where the elder children were after 1871 .what were their jobs .
+if their offspring stayed in Birkenhead or returned to Northants.

children were; Sarah b1850 frodsham..suspect she died young
children born in Helsby Charlotte b1852
nimrod 1853 married Mary in Liverpool 1870
sarah ann1856 C1971 domesticservant in Tranmere aged 15
john b1857
Caroline b1859 m John Roberts 1877 in b'Head had Mary1878 Charlotte.18

younger children born in Birkenhead
George 1863 ,Mary 1866 m.thomas Hale1901
Richard 1869-1876 drowned .William b1871 m Eliza Reed 1891
jamy 1874,jane 1874 m joseph jones 1896 (son joseph gardner jones b1898 with his gfather nimrod in 1901)
any help appreciated .for some news/court reports Nimrod sn +junior in 1860's see

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1339778

safc

safc Report 24 Apr 2014 12:57

????

Marriage: 25 Oct 1877 St Mary the Virgin, Bury, Lancashire, England
Thomas Mawdsley - 29, Butcher, Bachelor, Bury
Sarah Ann Gardiner - 22, Spinster, Bury
Groom's Father: Richard Mawdsley, Commercial Traveller
Bride's Father: Nimrod Gardiner, Labourer
Witness: Joseph Barker; S. Bailey
Married by Certificate by: W. R. Clayton Curate
Register: Marriages 1874 - 1879, Page 88, Entry 176
Source: LDS Family Search

Alisoun

Alisoun Report 24 Apr 2014 12:58

a Gardner relative told me Nimrod junior married mary b1853 in 1870 and had 4 children but can't find any of the birth registrations or the marriage cert

Jamesb1871,Albert 1874 ,Nimrod 1881d1884 death reg found +Richard 1885

On the 1891 census Nimrod is aged 36, a railway shunter wife Mary aged 35
Albert is aged 17
Richard is 6
at 39 greenfield st. Birkenhead

can't find them in 1881

safc

safc Report 24 Apr 2014 12:59

Marriage: 6 Jul 1896 St Mary, Great Sankey, Lancashire, England
James Gardner - 23, Shunter, Bachelor, S. Peters Parish, Birkenhead
Emily Thompson - 23, Spinster, Penketh
Groom's Father: Nimrod Gardner, Signalman
Bride's Father: John Thompson, Platelayer
Witness: James Garner; Elizabeth Thompson
Married by Banns by: J.R. Jones
Register: Marriages 1886 - 1897, Page 116, Entry 232
Source: LDS Film 1952267

Gins

Gins Report 24 Apr 2014 13:00

Posting for ref


http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1339778

Opps...apologies, you already posted it!

safc

safc Report 24 Apr 2014 13:01

Nimrod Gardner, "England and Wales Census, 1881"
Name: Nimrod Gardner
Age (Original): 53
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1828
Birthplace: Bugbrook, Northamptonshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Railway Signalman
Address: 4 Willow St
Event Place: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341856
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 3577 / 104
Page Number: 44
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Nimrod Gardner M 53 Bugbrook, Northamptonshire, England
Wife Mary Gardner F 50 Scotland
Son George Gardner M 18 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Son William Gardner M 9 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Son James Gardner M 7 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Daughter Jane Gardner F 6 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 24 Apr 2014 13:02

from a tree on ancestry

James Gardner
Birth April 1873 in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Death about March 1897 in Birkenhead, Cheshire, England


Birth
1873 Apr
Birkenhead, Cheshire, England

Residence
1881 Age: 8
4 Willow St. Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Age: 7; Relation to Head of House: Son

Marriage to Emily Thompson
1896 6 Jul Age: 23
St. Mary's Church, Great Sankey, Warrington, Lancashire
James Gardner,23,bachelor,Shunter,S. Peter Parish, Birkenhead. Father Nimrod Gardner,Signal Man.Emily Thompson,23,spinster,Penketh.Father John Thompson, Plate Layer.Banns, Witnesses John Thompson & Elizabeth Thompson

Death
1897 Mar Age: 23
Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
age 23

son

Fred James Gardner
1897 – 1963

Gins

Gins Report 24 Apr 2014 13:05


England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index, 1837-1915
about George Gardner




Name:
George Gardner

Estimated birth year:
abt 1863

Date of Registration:
Oct-Nov-Dec 1906

Age at Death:
43

Registration district:
Birkenhead

Inferred County:
Cheshire

Volume:
8a

Page:
308

Maddie

Maddie Report 24 Apr 2014 13:06

Jane maybe


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index, 1837-1915 about Jane Gardner
Name: Jane Gardner
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1896
Registration district: Birkenhead
Inferred County: Cheshire
Volume Number: 8a
Page Number: 731
Records on Page:
Name
Sadie Goodacre Downham
Jane Gardner
Hubert Edward Hughes
Joseph Jones

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 24 Apr 2014 13:06

A tree on Ancestry has a son James born 1873, Birkenhead, married Emily Thompson and had son Fred James Gardner (there are 2 photos of him)

Edit: Oops I've done it again, Maddie already posted that with more info!

safc

safc Report 24 Apr 2014 13:11

Thomas Mawdsley, "England and Wales Census, 1881"
Name: Thomas Mawdsley
Age (Original): 34
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1847
Birthplace: Bury, Lancashire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Beef Butcher
Address: 1 Thorne St
Event Place: Bury, Lancashire, England
Disability:
Record Type: Household
GS Film number: 1341922
Affiliate Publication Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 3860 / 4
Page Number: 2
Household Gender Age Birthplace
Head Thomas Mawdsley M 34 Bury, Lancashire, England
Wife Sarah A Mawdsley F 25 Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Son Richard Mawdsley M 2 Bury, Lancashire, England
Daughter Jane Mawdsley F 0 Bury, Lancashire, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 24 Apr 2014 13:14

1901

1901 England Census about Jane Jones
Name: Jane Jones
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Joseph Jones
Birth Place: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Birkenhead
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Birkenhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3391
Folio: 152
Page Number: 33
Household schedule number: 189
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Jones 34
Jane Jones 26
Mary A Chessey 12


brigid

brigid Report 24 Apr 2014 13:19

Thanks all just sorting thru and noting down to follow these new leads.
It seems odd that Nimrod went from being a railway plate layer in 1861 back to labourer in 1877 sarah ann's marriage
in 1881 he was a railway signalman

Maddie

Maddie Report 24 Apr 2014 13:27

could this be William
1911


1911 England Census about William Gardner
Name: William Gardner
Age in 1911: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Birkenhead, Cheshire, England
Civil Parish: Birkenhead
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address: K 16 Queens Bldgs
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Dock Labourer
Registration district: Birkenhead
Registration District Number: 452
Sub-registration district: Birkenhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 43
Piece: 22000
Household Members:
Name Age
William Gardner 40
Eliza Gardner 40
Albert F Gardner 6
John Cox 35

married 16 years




Maddie

Maddie Report 24 Apr 2014 13:28

marriage

First Name WILLIAM
Last Name GARDNER
Country England
Record set Diocese of Chester parish registers of marriages c1538-1910
Spouse First Name Eliza
County Cheshire
Spouse Last Name Reed
Year 1894
First Names William
Spouse Father's Name William Reed
Year Of Birth 1871
Date Of Marriage 01 Oct 1894
Spouse Age 22y
Parish St. Mary
Year Of Marriage 1894
Place BIRKENHEAD
City Or Town Birkenhead
Reference item 5 p 83
Record Group Part 1 - 1
Age 23y
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

Cheshire Archives and Local Studies

Maddie

Maddie Report 24 Apr 2014 13:29


First Name WILLIAM
Last Name GARDNER
Age At Death 63
Year 1935
Event Quarter 1
Year Of Birth 1872
District BIRKENHEAD
County Cheshire
Country England
Volume 8A
Page 641
Line Number 87
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Record collection Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

brigid

brigid Report 24 Apr 2014 13:32

poor little Fred James Gardner to lose his dad as a baby ; I hope Emily remarried .

It looks like Jane + Joseph Jones lived at home in 1901 so their 3 year old may just have been staying with his grandparents .

So that's some descendants to work on ...my mother will be pleased so many of them were still failrly local in 1901 when her mother was a baby In Birkenhead I'm trying to keep note of any street names that crop up + look them up on a 1909 street map i have

Maddie

Maddie Report 24 Apr 2014 13:34

1901

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
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First Name WILLIAM
Last Name GARDNER
Relationship HEAD
Condition MARRIED
Gender Male
Age 30
Year Of Birth 1871
Occupation LABOURER IN TIMBER YARD
Birth Town BHEAD
Birth County CHESHIRE
Birth Place -
Street BROOK STREET
Town -
Parish BIRKENHEAD
City -
Country ENGLAND
County Cheshire
Vessel Name -
Municipal Ward CLEVELAND
Registration District BIRKENHEAD
Archive Reference RG13
Piece Number 3390
Folio 189
Page 34

ELIZA GARDNER WIFE 29 1872 BHEAD
Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Record collection Census
Collections from Great Britain

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brigid

brigid Report 24 Apr 2014 14:02

Thanks again have messaged the member with James + Emily on her tree

SAFC I meant I couldn't find Nimrod Junior b 1855 in 1881 also married to a Mary maiden name unknown
should be with his children Albert +James and maybe baby Nimrod

well done Maddie definitely the right William +Eliza

Maddie

Maddie Report 24 Apr 2014 14:26


1881 England Census about Nimrod Gardener
Name: Nimrod Gardener
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Mary Gardener
Gender: Male
Where born: Helsby, Flintshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Birkenhead
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England
Street address: 87 Dacre St
Marital Status: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View image
Occupation: Railway Shunter
Registration district: Birkenhead
Sub-registration district: Birkenhead
ED, institution, or vessel: 9a
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3576
Folio: 22
Page Number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Nimrod Gardener 29
Mary Gardener 28
James Gardener 10
Albert Gardener 7
Nimrod Gardener

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