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Royal Flying Corps illegitimacy mystery!

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Catfr2009

Catfr2009 Report 10 May 2014 21:21

It could be but only if he's in the Flying Corps. Does it say?

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 May 2014 21:14

Is this relevant?

British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 about George Carruthers
Name: George Carruthers
Regiment or Corps: Royal Army Service Corps, Royal Flying Corps
Regimental Number: M2/034855

It doesn't say if any medals were awarded - the only notation is Comm 29.05.17 which I would read as meaning Commissioned 29 May 1917

Catfr2009

Catfr2009 Report 10 May 2014 20:51

Apologies - Will only post once!

Catfr2009

Catfr2009 Report 10 May 2014 20:50

Carruthers is the middle name of Jane we've just discovered on her death certificate. George's wife has said that she thinks that it was an Iain McVean who the bracelet belonged too when he was in the RFC.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 10 May 2014 20:48

Presumably you have a copy of grandfather's BC? if not, then it can be purchased or downloaded from http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

As he was illegitimate, it probably doesn't name his father, but there may be some clues.

Have you checked out the WW1 deaths on http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx
See if there are any deaths not only for Carruthers, but also McVean.

To be honest, when it comes to illegitimacy, with out 'living memories' its very difficult to identify a father.

alviegal

alviegal Report 10 May 2014 20:45

Also on this board with no answers.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1340346


Please Catherine, only post on one board so all the information stays together and different people don't spend time and effort putting the same information on different boards. :-)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 10 May 2014 20:09

You say there is mention on George's birth certificate of a Carruthers? In what context was the name mentioned? As father?

Catfr2009

Catfr2009 Report 10 May 2014 19:44

We haven't got a birth certificate I don't think but my mother-in-law is looking through documents incase.

We were always told that his father whoever he was, was in the RFC.

patchem

patchem Report 10 May 2014 19:36

Have you got Jane's birth certificate for information about her parents?

Are you claiming that her fiance was definitely in the RFC?

Thank-you

Catfr2009

Catfr2009 Report 10 May 2014 19:27

Hi all,

I am trying to solve a family mystery in my fiancee's family!

My fiancee's grandfather was born illegitimate on 3rd December 1919 in Glasgow to a Jane McFarlane (born 1888). The story that we've been told is that she was engaged to be married when she fell pregnant to a man in the Royal Flying Corps. Unfortunately he died in a flying accident sometime after they conceived George between March and December 1919.

There is also mention of the surname on Jane's death certificate and George's birth certificate by the name of Carruthers. We've found a George Carruthers in the Royal Flying Corps but whether that's him or has any relevance we don't know. Jane never married married but another interesting thing about Jane is that she carried around a sort of medallion that she made into a bracelet and wore for the rest of her life until she died unmarried in the 1960's. The name engraved on the bracelet was McVean. Neither of these names have been found in the tree except a visitor to her father in the 1881 census....

I am desperately trying to find out what happened with George's father so if anyone has any idea who he is, know of anything surrounding this or of any relatives, we'd be so grateful as my fiancee's family having been looking for years with no joy. We think there may be an American link but we don't know where or if there is one. We have a medal from a run or race from Detroit in the 1920's which was for a George McFarlane. This is potentially Jane's father.

Any help, please send our way as we are desperate for news!

Thank you in advance,

Catherine.