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Jennifer

Jennifer Report 6 Sep 2014 21:43

Hello,

I'm really feeling very confused. I have my grandfathers birth certificate which names him as William Hitchen. I have a photo of the grave which says William Hitchen. I also have the marriage certificate which names him JOHN WILLIAM HITCHEN...he has signed J W Hitchen. No one in the family knew him as John William Is it the same man????

Can anyone throw any explanation on this because I am seriously thinking I have the wrong marriage cert and yet my grandmothers name is correct....I;m very confused

Jenny x

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 6 Sep 2014 21:44

Hello Jennifer, it would help us to help you if you gave some dates and locations :-)

Who was their child that you are working back from?

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 6 Sep 2014 21:46

Ooops sorry MarieCeleste

Grandad William Hitchen was born 1882 in Whiston Rotherham Yorkshire. He died in Whiston Rotherhm 1958 and married in Middlesborough 1906

Child is William Henry Hitchen 1914 Whiston Rotherham Yorkshire

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Sep 2014 21:51

Name: William Hitchen
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration Year: 1882
Registration District: Rotherham
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Rotherham, Yorkshire, England
Volume: 9C
Page: 639
Line Number: 234

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Sep 2014 21:52

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Name: James Arthur Hitchen
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 13 Nov 1909
Christening Place: Whiston, York, England
Father's Name: William Hitchen
Mother's Name: Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03387-1 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1938089 , Reference ID: 237

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Sep 2014 21:52

Name: Ellen Hitchen
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 24 Jan 1908
Christening Place: Whiston, York, England
Father's Name: William Hitchen
Mother's Name: Mary
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03387-1 , System Origin: England-EASy , GS Film number: 1938089 , Reference ID: 228

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 6 Sep 2014 21:53

It's not unusual for someone to be known by their second name especially if the first name was the same as the father's.

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 6 Sep 2014 21:54

Thank you AnnCardiff yes this is the birth I have too. I'm just wondering would granddad have put John William on the marriage cert for a reason

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 6 Sep 2014 21:55

Name: John William Hitchen
Event Type: Marriage
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year: 1906
Registration District: Middlesbrough
County: Yorkshire
Event Place: Middlesbrough, Yorkshire, England
Volume: 9D
Page: 1105
Line Number: 32

John William Hitchen probably married one of the following people
Name: Mary Ede
Name: Esther Kemp

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 6 Sep 2014 21:56

Births Jun 1914
HITCHEN William H Ede Rotherham 9c 1543

Only one marriage between a hitchen and an ede

Marriages Sep 1906 (>99%)
EDE Mary Middlesbro' 9d 1105
HITCHEN John William Middlesbro' 9d 1105

perhaps he just preferred the name John. people can call themselves whatever they like, as long it's not with intent to deceive or defraud

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 6 Sep 2014 21:57

Hi Margee

My problem is that on the birth and even his grave stone there is no mention of him having the name John. His father was George born 1842 in Barnsley.

Its just strange that the marriage cert says John William and yet no one in my family has ever heard of this name for him

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 6 Sep 2014 21:58

Later children

Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
Hitchen Sylvia Ede Rotherham 9c 1439 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1914 (>99%)
HITCHEN William H Ede Rotherham 9c 1543 Scan available - click to view
Births Mar 1916 (>99%)
Hitchen Mary Ede Rotherham 9c 1335 Scan available - click to view
Births Mar 1918 (>99%)
Hitchen Stanley Ede Rotherham 9c 1293 Scan available - click to view
Births Jun 1920 (>99%)
Hitchen Dennis Ede Rotherham 9c 15_1 Scan available - click to view
Hitchen Vera Ede Rotherham 9c 1562

Is the man's father named as GEORGE on the marriage cert?

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 6 Sep 2014 22:00

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Guiltwaite Whiston Near Rotherham, Whiston, Yorkshire, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship to household head Marital condition Gender Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Sarah Hitchen Head Widow Female 69 1842 Kilnhurst Yorkshire - Image Transcription
Wilfred Percy Hitchen Son Single Male 23 1888 Whitehill Yorkshire Coal Hewer Image Transcription
William Hitchen Son Married Male 28 1883 Whitehill Yorkshire Coal Miner Hewer Image Transcription
Mary Hitchen Wife Married Female 23 1888 Leeds Yorkshire - Image Transcription
Helen Hitchen Daughter Single Female 3 1908 Guilthwaite Yorkshire - Image Transcription
James Arthur Hitchen Son - Male 1 1910 Guilthwaite Yorkshire - Image Transcription
Clara Rodgers Visitor Single Female 23 1888 Hoyland Common Yorkshire - Image Transcription
John Field Boarder Married Male 46 1865 Beighton Derbyshire Coal Miner Hewer Image Transcription

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 6 Sep 2014 22:00

His marriage?


Result Year Surname Forename Initial Ref Number Click to contact
1 1906 EDE MARY M-AA-J70-0-0097 Middlesbrough
2 1906 HITCHEN JOHN W M-AA-J70-0-0097 Middlesbrough

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 6 Sep 2014 22:00

Jacqueline Yes thats the marriage record from which I sent for the certificate. I agree he may have used John William to get married but its strange he never used it in day to day things just on the marriage cert.

It looks as though I have the right record but its still strange don't you think

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 6 Sep 2014 22:01

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Whiston (Guilthwaite), Whiston, Rotherham, Yorkshire, England

Print household transcription Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Hitchen Head Married Male 59 1842 Shoe Maker Barnsley, Yorkshire Image Transcription
Sarah Hitchen Wife Married Female 54 1847 - Kilnhurst, Yorkshire Image Transcription
William Hitchen Son Single Male 18 1883 Coal Miner Whitehill, Yorkshire Image Transcription
Wilfred Percy Hitchen Son Single Male 13 1888 Coal Miner Whitehill, Yorkshire Image Transcription
John Connock Boarder Married Male 28 1873 Coal Miner Ewloe, Cheshire Image Transcription
Robert Hayes Boarder Single Male 20 1881 Coal Miner Rotherham, Yorkshire Image Transcription

Jennifer

Jennifer Report 6 Sep 2014 22:08

Thank you everyone for all your help. I can see there is a lot of information on the family which I haven't got so I am very grateful to you for helping me.

As for my Granddad..I guess only he knows why he called himself John, I am relieved though that I have the right certificate and hadn't married him off to someone unknown.

Hope I haven't been any trouble. THANK YOU XXXX