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Trying to find both sides of my tree. Does anyone know John Ernest Moore born 1881c married Emma Crossby and James Grieve 1768c who married Christine Young.

What research, such as census, do you have already ?

Location would be useful/

Marriages Dec 1903 (>99%)
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Crosby Emma King's N. 6c 840
Moore John Ernest King's N. 6c 840

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NAME: John Ernest Moore
AGE IN 1911: 30
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1881
RELATION TO HEAD: Head
GENDER: Male
BIRTH PLACE: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
CIVIL PARISH: Rhondda
COUNTY/ISLAND: Glamorgan
COUNTRY: Wales
STREET ADDRESS: 4 Cymmer Rd Porth
MARITAL STATUS: Married
YEARS MARRIED: 7
ESTIMATED MARRIAGE YEAR: 1904
OCCUPATION: Confectionery Traveller
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Pontypridd
REGISTRATION DISTRICT NUMBER: 589
SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Llantrisant
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 17
HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 4
PIECE: 32309
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
John Ernest Moore 30
Emma Moore 28 BIRTH PLACE: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Ivy Moore 6
Charlie Moore 5
Lily Moore 4
Gwendoline Moore 1

Possible birth?

NAME: John Ernest Moore
REGISTRATION YEAR: 1881
REGISTRATION QUARTER: Jan-Feb-Mar
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Aston
PARISHES FOR THIS REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Search for Aston in the UK Census Collection
INFERRED COUNTY: Warwickshire
VOLUME: 6d
PAGE: 337

..............birth cert. will give you both parents names.

Quite a few possible births after 1911:-

Births Mar 1912 (>99%)
Moore Ernest R Crosby Pontypridd 11a 1286 xxxx
Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
Moore Phyllis C Crosby St. Thomas 5b 45
Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
Moore Edna M Crosby Pontypridd 11a 1233 xxxx
Births Dec 1914 (>99%)
Moore Ernest R Crosby Pontypridd 11a 1271 xxxx
Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Moore Audrey J Crosby St.Thomas 5b 41
Moore Norah E Crosby Pontypridd 11a 1247 xxxx
Births Jun 1917 (>99%)
Moore Constance R Crosby Worksop 7b 27
Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
Moore Maggie I Crosby Worksop 7b 43
Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Moore Frederick E Crosby Pontypridd 11a 1520 xxxx
Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Moore William J C Crosby St.Thomas 5b 51
Births Dec 1921 (>99%)
Moore Dennis G Crosby Pontypridd 11a 1276 xxxx

(The Pontypridd births are more likely due to the family being there in 1911)

Possible????

NAME: Emma Crossby
REGISTRATION YEAR: 1883
REGISTRATION QUARTER: Jan-Feb-Mar
REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Birmingham
PARISHES FOR THIS REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Search for Birmingham in the UK Census Collection
INFERRED COUNTY: Warwickshire
VOLUME: 6d
PAGE: 26


NAME: Emma Crosby
AGE: 18
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1883
RELATION TO HEAD: Stepdaughter
GENDER: Female
MOTHER: Emma Soffe
BIRTH PLACE: Birmingham
CIVIL PARISH: Birmingham
ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: Birmingham St Asaph
COUNTY/ISLAND: Warwickshire
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS:

OCCUPATION: Warehouse Girl (Brassfounders)

REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Birmingham
SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: St Martin
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 09
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
PIECE: 2832
FOLIO: 44
PAGE NUMBER: 31
HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 225
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
Samuel Soffe 47
Emma Soffe 46
Edward Soffe 6
Rose Crosby 23
Nora Crosby 20
Emma Crosby 18

2 possible census records for John so you would need the marriage cert. to see who his father was, his occuptaion and address, to know which is correct:-

NAME: John Moore
AGE: 21
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1880
RELATION TO HEAD: Son
GENDER: Male
FATHER: John Moore
MOTHER: Sarah Moore
BIRTH PLACE: Birmingham
CIVIL PARISH: Aston
ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: St Andrew
COUNTY/ISLAND: Warwickshire
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS: 421 Garrison Lane

OCCUPATION: ? Finisher

REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Aston
SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Deritend
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 085
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
PIECE: 2864
FOLIO: 101
PAGE NUMBER: 12
HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 64
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
John Moore 54 - Wheelwright
Sarah Moore 56
Albert Felkin 26
Sarah Felkin 26
Jane James 44
John Moore 21
Beatrice Moore 15
Albert Moore 12
William Felkin 3
Sissy Felkin 2
Henry Felkin 3/12

OR


NAME: John Moore
AGE: 21
ESTIMATED BIRTH YEAR: abt 1880
RELATION TO HEAD: Son
GENDER: Male
FATHER: John Moore
MOTHER: Mary Ann Moore
BIRTH PLACE: Birmingham
CIVIL PARISH: Aston
ECCLESIASTICAL PARISH: St Clement
COUNTY/ISLAND: Warwickshire
COUNTRY: England
STREET ADDRESS: 15 Butlin Street

OCCUPATION: Labourer

REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Aston
SUB-REGISTRATION DISTRICT: Duddeston
ED, INSTITUTION, OR VESSEL: 52
NEIGHBORS: View others on page
PIECE: 2873
FOLIO: 134
PAGE NUMBER: 17
HOUSEHOLD SCHEDULE NUMBER: 6
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS:
NAME AGE
John Moore 49
Mary Ann Moore 50
John Moore 21
Marie Moore 19
William Moore 16

For James Grieve, a tree on ancestry has this:-

Birth: 1768 - Roxburghshire, scotland
Death: 18 Mar 1836 - Scotland
Parents: James Grieve, Mary Sorott

James Grieve
1738 – 1818

Mary Sorott
1740 – 1803

Spouse: Christian Young

Children:-

James Grieve
1818 – 1897

Mary Grieve
1820 – 1906

Robert Grieve
1822 – 1900

Elizabeth Grieve
1824 –

Isabella Grieve
1828 –
...............................................
Christian Young
Birth 29 Aug 1796 in Hawick, Roxboughshire,Scotland
Death in Midiem, Roxboughshire,Scotland

Parents:-

William Young
1750 –

Bessie Scott
1760 –

(Owner: jcooper02 )

Probate


Name:John Ernest Moore

Probate Date:7 Jan 1952

Death Date:18 Sep 1951

Death Place:Glamorgan, Wales

Registry:Llandaff

To: Emma Moore, widow £145 11s 11d

Hello Karan and welcome to the Community boards.



(I'll let Karan know how to find her threads) :-)

Many thanks sorry about the place.
The Moore family I thing came from Birmingham, moved to Wales then back to England. The Grieve family were from Roxboughshire moved the Edinburgh then worldwide. I would still like to continue with this information. My tree has all children and spouses/children etc I want a full history, there is no one to tell my grandchildren about their heritage.

Many thanks to everyone. I have not been able to do any research as we have been extending to accommodate my mother who is 95 years next week.