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maria mary saunders 1829

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malyon

malyon Report 28 Feb 2015 13:42

hi
looking for marriage of maria saunders born bermondsey southwark father richard mother elizabeth she married thomas hopkins also would like to know how many children they had if you could help thank you

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Feb 2015 13:46

Have you found them on any census after marriage to see the children ?

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Feb 2015 13:47

No middle name showing on the record

Name: Maria Saunders - shown as a minor
Spouse: Thomas James Hopkins - fishmonger
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 6 Dec 1846
Parish: St Mary, Newington
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Richard Saunders - occupation of tanner
Spouse Father: Thomas Hopkins
Register Type: Parish Register


Is the fathers name correct ?

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Feb 2015 13:52

Just for ref

Name: Maria Mary Saunders
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 1 Apr 1829
Father's name: Richard Saunders <<<< Occupation WATCHMAN ( apologies I typed waterman doh)

Mother's name: Elizabeth Saunders
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Feb 2015 13:52

Father is a fish monger

Name: James Richard Hopkins
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 17 Oct 1847
Father's name: Thomas Hopkins
Mother's name: Maria Hopkins
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Feb 2015 13:55

So that marriage is wrong if that baptism is correct. Unless the father changed occupations

Thanks Rambling Rose

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Feb 2015 13:59

No just looking at the marriage, seems to be correct and father changed occupation...I think the street is the same, Elim?Elam?

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Feb 2015 14:03

Richard was a leather worker ( leather market) in 1841, again it is same street...Elim

Name: Richard Saunders
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: St Mary Magdalen Bermondsey
Sub-registration district: Leather Market
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1047
Book: 4
Folio: 27
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
William Gardner 20
Joseph Pust 24
George Thurman 30
John Lunn 50
Robert Lunn 13
Richard Saunders 50 <<< tanner
Elizabeth Saunders 48
Maria Saunders 12
Hannah Saunders 10
Thomas Saunders 7

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Feb 2015 14:04

James is with his grandmother in 1861

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Feb 2015 14:14

Just been looking at the 1851 posted

Has he married again as Ann the wife shows as born c1804

malyon

malyon Report 28 Feb 2015 14:18

hi
thanks for finding the marriage that is correct maria married again in 1864 to john malyon so thomas must have died i think thomas and james were their sons they are i in 1871 census with maria husband not there

Maria Malyon
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name: Maria Malyon
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1871
Gender: Female
Age: 42
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Birthplace: Bermondsey, Surrey
Schedule Type: Household
Registration District: St Olave Southwark
Sub-District: St James
Parish: Bermondsey
County: London, Surrey
Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Maria Malyon Wife F 42 Bermondsey, Surrey
Thomas Hopkins Stepson M 21 Bermondsey, Surrey
Richard Malyon Son M 17 Bermondsey, Surrey
William Malyon Son M 11 Old Kent Rd, Surrey
Benjamin Malyon Son M 8 Old Kent Rd, Surrey
Albert Ed Malyon Son M 7 Old Kent Rd, Surrey
Eliza Malyon Daughter F 11 Newcastle
Laura A Hopkins Daughter-in-law F 21 Bristol, Gloucestershire
James R Hopkins Stepson M 22 Old Kent Rd, Surrey
Annie L Hopkins Stepdaughter F 16 Newcastle
Anne M Hopkins Granddaughter F 0 Old Kent Rd, Surrey thomas had more children

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Feb 2015 14:22

Getting more confused with this

Name: Caroline Hopkins
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 7 Sep 1828
Father's name: Thomas Hopkins
Mother's name: Ann Hopkins
Parish or Poor Law Union: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene
Borough: Southwark
Register Type: Parish Registers

Willow Walk. Thomas is a fishmonger

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 28 Feb 2015 14:25

The marriage was in 1861 and she is described as widow

malyon

malyon Report 28 Feb 2015 14:54

hi
the thomas and ann in census are the parents of thomas hopkins who married maria
and james 3 is there son he is in the 1871 census with maria dont know where she was in 1851 census could not find her or thomas her husband

malyon

malyon Report 28 Feb 2015 18:09

Thomas James Hopkins
England Births and Christenings
Name: Thomas James Hopkins
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 20 Aug 1826
Christening Place: SAINT MARY MAGDALENE,BERMONDSEY,LONDON,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Thomas Hopkins
Mother's Name: Ann