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Nudged for help please with latest query re an O'Gorman marriage to Leese - possibly in Germany as didnt want to start a new thread. thanks. Nicki

I have found a James Alexander O'Gorman born in Germany in 1977. Can someone please find me an O'Gorman marriage to Leese please?

Also connected

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1350144

Related to this thread re Electoral Roll for the O'Gormans
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1350146?jump=1350146

I found Ernestine aged 32 returning to UK on 14 Feb 1947 with David aged 7. So I am pleased I now know I am looking for a David O'Gorman born 1939/1940 in India.

Thanks - two O'Gormans married Fallofield ladies and those two births relate to Maurice & Noella'schildren - but thank you anyway Gins.

Nicki

There is a birth for the couple in 1952 and another possible in 1954

Take a look on freebmd

I sent off for the will yesterday - so fingers crossed.

You might get some information by obtaining a copy of Leonard's will

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/

Surname First name Date of probate Probate number Date of death Document type Registry
O'GORMAN LEONARD KEVIN 03 March 1998 9852408541 26 January 1998 Grant and will Winchester

Her parents marriage




Name:John Aug. Eru. Fallofield

Gender:Male

Marital Status:Single

Age:30

Birth Date:1869

Marriage Date:15 Apr 1899

Marriage Place:Middleton Row, Bengal, India

Father:
John Fallofield

Spouse:
Christine Stuart Philips Widowed

Father John Stuart

FHL Film Number:512374

Thanks for Marie's baptism - I didnt have that. I only found the deaths yesterday so dont as yet know who registered them, I assume Leonard would have registered Marie's. I have found the address they lived at in Warminster.

Who registered the deaths?

I presume as you know they married in 1938 India, you have this marriage record.

Birth and marriage were a few miles apart!

British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns - Marriages Transcription

First name(s) Marie Therese Ernestine
Last name Fallofield
Marriage year 1938
Marriage date 1938
Spouse's first name Leonard Kevin
Spouse's last name Ogorman
Place Madras
Presidency Madras
Groom's age 27
Bride's age 24
Groom's father's first name -
Groom's father's last name -
Bride's father's first name -
Bride's father's last name -
Catalogue description Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Madras, : 1698-1948
Archive reference N-2-163
Folio number 140
Entry number 2
Record set British India Office marriages
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

Do you have Marie's birth/baptism record?

British India Office Ecclesiastical Returns- Births & Baptisms Transcription

First name(s) Marie Therese Ernestine
Last name Fallofield
Baptism year 1914
Birth year 1914
Place Bombay,Holy Name
Presidency Bombay
Mother's first name(s) Marie Jos Arnande
Mother's last name -
Father's first name(s) John Aug Ernest
Father's last name Fallofield
Baptism date 9 Feb 1914
Birth date 30 Jan 1914
Archive reference N-3-111
Folio 29
Page -
Catalogue descriptions Parish register transcripts from the Presidency of Bombay, 1709-1948
Record set British India Office births & baptisms
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Births & baptisms
Collections from Great Britain
brightsolid

Name:Rosemary Ogorman

Birth Date:abt 1942

Age:6

Port of Departure:Bombay, India

Arrival Date:5 Oct 1948

Port of Arrival:Liverpool, England

Ports of Voyage:Karachi

Ship Name:Empire Brent

Shipping line:Anchor Line


Travelling with:

Rose M Ogorman 1910

Patricia Ogorman 1940

Michael Ogorman 1945

Peter Ogorman 1946

Brian Ogorman 1947

There is this family which may account for those baptisms and so we can probably discount them??

Peter Ogorman

in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
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Name: Peter Ogorman
Birth Date: abt 1946
Age: 2
Port of Departure: Bombay, India
Arrival Date: 5 Oct 1948
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: Karachi
Ship Name: Empire Brent
Search Ship Database: Search for the Empire Brent in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Anchor Line
Official Number: 148847

Travelling with:
Rose M age 38
Patricia 8
Rosemary 6
Michael 3
Brian 11 months

Address to be: The Hale, Newnham, Gloucester.

Dea x

FMP has three baptisms

Patricia Ann in 1940 Bengal
Peter Shann in 1945 Lucknow
Rosemary M in in 1942 India - this one is an Army Birth

But no way of knowing who the parents are

Hi greyghost

Thank you for that. Not sure on return to UK date but Leonard was still in India In 1942 - i have the following info from various London Gazettes:

THE LONDON GAZETTE, 19 FEBRUARY, 1943 893
INDIAN ARMY DEPARTMENTS.
Emergency Commissions.
To be 2nd Lts. i3th Aug. 1942.

Leonard Kevin O'Gorman

SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 18 NOVEMBER, 1952 6069
ARMY EMERGENCY RESERVE OF OFFICERS

Lt. L. K. O'GORMAN (401743) from Reg. Army
Res. of Offrs. to be Lt. & Paymr., 1st Sept. 1952.

8606 SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 2ND AUGUST 1966

REGULAR ARMY RESERVE OF OFFICERS
Capt. L. K. O'GORMAN (401743) having attained
the age limit relinquishes his commn., 1st Aug.
1966, and is granted the hon. rank of Capt.

I have ordered in his Army file for further clues.

Nicki

Deaths, for ages of the couple, to cover possible birth years. Unless Fallowfield is not Marie's maiden name, I can see no births in England/Wales. Do you know when they returned to UK?

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) LEONARD KEVIN
Last name O'GORMAN
Gender Male
Birth day 1
Birth month 8
Birth year 1911
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1998
District NORTH EAST HAMPSHIRE
District number 4951
Register number 26
Entry number 124
Date of registration mm/yy 0198
------------------------------------------------
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription

First name(s) MARIE THERESE E
Last name O'GORMAN
Gender Female
Birth day 30
Birth month 1
Birth year 1914
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1995
District WARMINSTER
District number 7981
Register number 10D
Entry number 193
Date of registration mm/yy 0195
County Wiltshire

I would be grateful if anyone could kindly please seeif they can find any birth records for children of Leonard Kevin O'Gorman and Marie Therese Ernestine Fallofield. Leonard and Marie married in 1938 in India, Marie died in Warminster in 1995 and Leonard died in 1998.

Thank you.