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Hi

I have 2 deaths in my tree both give 4 Hamilton Place as the address
1st Esther Gordon married to George Finlay died 1847
4 Hamilton Place East Lothian

2nd Alexander Richardson who was married to Isabel Finlay he died 1847 also
4 Hamilton Place Bridgestock

Not knowing if these two places are the same and given I've not been able to find Alexander & Isabel in the 1841 census Alexander was a coachman
is their anyway of finding out who lived at this address in 1841,
if the names are the right ones then i can get the census from scotlandspeople

Thank you

For 1841 Ancestry is only bringing up the street address - no numbers, and has Hamilton Place in Midlothian (Edinburgh);

Thank you is their any of the names I'm after Richardson or Gordon

These are the only ones showing in 1841 at FMP with the address Hamilton Place


Dalziell Alexander 1771 — 1841 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census St Cuthbert's, Midlothian, Scotland

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Dalziell Janet 1816 — 1841 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census St Cuthbert's, Midlothian, Scotland

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Dalziell Marion 1781 — 1841 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census St Cuthbert's, Midlothian, Scotland


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Lowrie Betty 1816 — 1841 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census St Cuthbert's, Midlothian, Scotland

Thank you

I'll put one off those names in and see if I can recognise any names

Ancestry have more listed for Hamilton place. There is one Gordon:

James Mclaren 36
Elizabeth Mclaren 30
John Mclaren 38
John Mclaren 7
Peter Mclaren 5
Mary Mclaren 3
James Mclaren 1
Wm Gordon 9 *****
Cathrine Person 18
Margt Russel 17


There are no Richardsons in Hamilton Place but there are a few in the same Parish (St Cuthberts). Do you have any first names?

Do you DOBs for any of them and did they have any children?

I ha
Alexander b 1801 40
Isabel b 1795 46 wife
Thomas b 1824 27 son
Isabel Gordon 1826 15 Daughter she is with an aunt in 1841
Georgina b 1838 3 Daughter

Just looking at the McLaren's don't think their mine

Where did you find the info that Alexander Richardson died at 14 Hamilton Place, Bridgestock - wherever that is?

The only 1847 death for an Alexander Richardson in Scotland showing on SP is for one who was drowned at sea (therefore there's no address !). Burial in parish of Dunbar, East Lothian.

A Google search doesn't show any place called Bridgestock.

There's a Hamilton Place in Stockbridge in Edinburgh. (which is the one previous posters have found).

Esther Finlay died / was buried in 1846, not 1847:

15/12/1846 FINLAY ESTHER
Other surnames: GORDON / GEORGE FINLAY F ST CUTHBERT'S EDINBURGH CITY CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/02 0610 0113

There were Richardsons at 4 Hamilton Place in 1851

Isabella Richardson

in the 1851 Scotland Census
Name: Isabella Richardson
Age: 56
Estimated birth year: abt 1795
Relationship: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Cockpen, Edinburghshire
Parish Number: 685/2
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts
County: Midlothian
Address: 4 Hamilton Place
Occupation: Laundress
ED: 8A
Page: 6
Household schedule number: 23
LINE: 1
Roll: CSSCT1851_184
Household Members:
Name Age
Isabella Richardson 56
Thomas Watron 26 - visitor - probably Watson
Isabella Watron 23 - visitor
Georgina Richardson 12
Christian Richardson 5

The same Isabella in 1861 - not seeing her in 1841 so far:

Isabella Richardson

in the 1861 Scotland Census
Name: Isabella Richardson
Age: 67
Estimated birth year: abt 1794
Relationship: Mother-in-law
Gender: Female
Where born: Cockhen, Edinburgh
Registration Number: 685/1
Registration district: St George
Civil Parish: Edinburgh St George
Town: Edinburgh
County: Midlothian
Address: Mary Cottage
ED: 83
Household schedule number: 78
LINE: 20
Roll: CSSCT1861_125
Household Members:
Name Age
James Gow 23
Georgina Gow 22
James Gow 2
Alexander Gow 1
Isabella Richardson 67
Christina Richardson 15

Hamilton Place addresses are flats, so more than one family could have the same number, but be in different flats.

Thank you for your help

I got the death of Alexander from scotlandspeople it had address as 4 Hamilton Place and he was a coachman , yes I have the 1851 census where his wife was living , so I put 2+2 together I've a feeling they were living separate but Isabel his wife had a daughter Georgina in 1838 not found a birth for her though on her death it has her father as Alexander

Oh, yes, here's Alexander's death - SP doesn't recognise Alexr as a variant of Alexander!

10/07/1847 RICHARDSON ALEXR ----- M ST CUTHBERT'S EDINBURGH CITY CITY/MIDLOTHIAN 685/02 0510 0313

http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

FreeCEN is good for the early Scottish censuses - 1841 has 29 complete and 3 partial counties (of 33); 1851 has 19 complete and 7 partial; 1861 has 11 complete and 2 partial; nothing is done for BEW and only CAI has anything after 1871. MLN is done for 1841-1851.
FreeCEN transcriptions are generally quite a bit more accurate than Ancestry, and marginally more accurate than SP/FMP.
They have a nice display, and buttons that let you go thru adjacent h/h's (adjacent on the census pages, that is).

1851 Census
Piece: SCT1851/685 Place: St Cuthbert's -Midlothian Enumeration District: 8
Civil Parish: Edinburgh Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Cuthberts
Folio: 720 Page: 6 Schedule: 23
Address: 4 Hamilton Place
Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
RICHARDSON Isabella Head W F 56 Laundress Midlothian - Cockpen
WATSON Thomas Visitr M M 26 Shopman Peebles-shire - Broughton
WATSON Isabella Visitr M F 23 Shopmans Wife Midlothian - Inveresk
RICHARDSON Georgina Dau U F 12 Scholar Midlothian - Edinburgh
RICHARDSON Christian Grndau U F 5 Scholar Midlothian - Edinburgh
RICHARDSON- Infant - U F 1m Under 1 Month Midlothian - Edinburgh

1841 Census
Piece: SCT1841/685 Place: St Cuthbert's -Midlothian Enumeration District: 14
Civil Parish: St Cuthbert's Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: St Cuthbert's
Folio: 116 Page: 7
Address: Hamilton Place
Surname First name(s) Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
RICHARDSON Elizabeth F 36 Midlothian
RICHARDSON Helen F 10 Midlothian
RICHARDSON Georgina F 2 Midlothian