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David

David Report 17 Oct 2015 09:27

I'm researching my family tree on my Fathers side.

Father was born Belfast Northern Ireland 1918 and died in England 1990
His name is SAMUEL GALWAY IRVINE

His Father was also Samuel Irvine b1874 - d1940
Samuel senior's wife was Sarah McLarnon d1941

Samuel senior's Father was named Francis Irvine, dates uncertain

Francis Irvine's Father was also Francis Irvine, dates uncertain

Records of their being must exist or were they all destroyed?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Oct 2015 09:38

Samuel Galway Irvine seems popular on google search...(if anything new relating amongst!)

Chris :)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Oct 2015 09:59

Which of these is likely (if any) to be Samuel senior?

Forename of child Surname of child Date of birth Sex of child Mother's maiden name Registration district

Samuel Irvine 5th January 1873 Male Evans Belfast(pre-1973 Q4)

Samuel Irvine 2nd May 1873 Male Mawhiney Antrim(pre-1973 Q4)

Samuel Irvine 4th February 1874 Male McCormac Newtownards(pre-1973 Q4)

Samuel Irvine 19th May 1874 Male Galloway Antrim(pre-1973 Q4)

Samuel Irvine 9th November 1874 Male Irvine Strabane(pre-1973 Q4)

Samuel Irvine 13th December 1874 Male McKnight Downpatrick(pre-1973 Q4)

Samuel Irvine 12th June 1875 Male Rodgers Lisburn(pre-1973 Q4)

Above results from https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Oct 2015 10:02

When you ask if all records were destroyed, what type of records are you referring to?

If census, then generally only the 1901 and 1911 census for Ireland have survived.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 17 Oct 2015 10:07

Ireland Marriages 1845-1958 Transcription

First name(s) Sarah Margaret
Last name McLarnon
Registration year 1910
Registered Quarter/Year Oct - Dec 1910
Registration district Belfast
Volume 1
Page 364
MarriageFinderâ„¢ Sarah Margaret McLarnon married one of these people
James McCann, Samuel Irvine, Hugh McBurney, William Francis Brady

Record set Irish Marriages 1845-1958

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Oct 2015 10:08

Related:

http://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/trying_to_find/mclarnon/thread/1262477?d=desc

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/records_office/thread/902816

http://www.genesreunited.co.za/boards/board/records_office/thread/1100192?d=asc&page=35

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 17 Oct 2015 10:12

1911:
Residents of a house 2 in Osborne St (Duncairn, Antrim)

Irvine Samuel 36 Male Head of Family Methodist (labourer, Dock)
Irvine Sarah Margaret 26 Female Wife Church of Ireland
Irvine Samuel G 3 Male Son Methodist

Married under 1 year, no children to this marriage
--------------------------------------------

So Samuel may have been married before:

Looks like the first Samuel died:

Ireland Deaths 1864 - 1958 Transcription

First name(s) Samuel Galway
Last name Irvine
Birth year 1907
Age at death 6
Registered year 1913
Registered quarter/year Oct - Dec 1913
Registration district Belfast
Volume 1 Page 178
Country Ireland

and his birth:

Ireland Births 1864-1958 Transcription
First name(s) Samuel Galloway
Last name Irvine
Registration year 1907
Registered quarter/year Jul - Sep 1907
Registration district Belfast
Volume 1 Page 188
Country Ireland

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Oct 2015 10:31

As posted on the third linked thread (above)

Name: Samuel Irvine
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 19 May 1874
Birth Place: Doagh, Ant, Ireland
Baptism Place: Doagh, Ant, Ireland
Father's Name: Francis Irvine
Mother's Name: Rose Ann Galloway


1901

Name: Francis Irvine
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Rose Ann Irvine
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration number: 503
Registration district: Row
Civil parish: Row
Town: Helensburgh
County: Dumbartonshire
Address: 23 Maitland St
Occupation: Fisherman

Household Members:
Name Age
Francis Irvine 60
Rose Ann Irvine 66 ~WIFE ~ Ireland
Thomas Mooney 48 ~ boarder


parents: Francis Irvine
spouse: Rosanna Galloway
groom's name: Francis Irvine
bride's name: Rosanna Galloway
marriage date: 18 Aug 1864
marriage place: Ballylinny, Ant, Ireland
groom's father's name: Francis Irvine
bride's father's name: Samuel Galloway
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M70231-2
system origin: Ireland-EASy
source film number: 101462

David

David Report 17 Oct 2015 10:46



Thank you, infant Samuel was named after his Father and my Father b1918 was also named Samuel, Mother's name Sarah McLarnon, he had 2 older sisters

Samuel senior died 1940 in Purdeysburn Hospital, his wife a year later.

Samuel senior's Father was named Francis husband of Rosanna Galloway
They too live in Osborne Street at the time of my Father's birth..

Samuel senior was born 1874 d1940

Francis was a weaver, ancestry uncertain but I believe his Father was also Francis.

David

David Report 17 Oct 2015 10:49


Marie Celeste, the Samuel senior I'm referring to is one of those born 1874

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 17 Oct 2015 11:01

what records are you wanting?

1911
Residents of a house 33 in Osborne St (Duncairn, Antrim)

Irvine Francis 72 Male Head of Family Methodist General labourer
Irvine Rosanna 67 Female Wife Methodist

Married 46 years, 10 children, 3 died

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 17 Oct 2015 11:04

1901:

Residents of a house 7 in Osborne Street (Duncairn Ward, Antrim)

Irvine Francis 65 Male Head of Family Methodist Ballyclare, Labourer
Irvine Rosanna 55 Female Wife Methodist Ballyclare
Irvine Rosanna 20 Female Daughter Methodist Ballyclare Pinafore stitcher
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Just one of Samuel's siblings- do you have the others? (As well as Samuel and Rosanna I see Thomas, Margaret, Agnes and Francis)

Ireland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1620-1911

Name: Rosanna Irvin
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 2 Feb 1881
Birth Place: Ballynure, Antrim, Ireland
Father's name: Francis Irvin
Mother's name: Rosanna Galloway Irvin
FHL Film Number: 257857

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Oct 2015 11:15

David, I think rather than "one of those born 1874" he's most likely the one born 19 May 1874, as found on your previous enquiry in 2012 and as I've re-posted above.

I think it's quite possible that Samuel jnr's middle name of Galway is actually a corruption of Galloway - his paternal grandmother's maiden name.

Could you be a bit more specific as to what information you're looking for - over and above what has previously been found?

David

David Report 17 Oct 2015 11:27

Thank you sincerely <3 <3

I should explain, I've searched fathers' ancestry before but not for a long time.

I've been off this site a long time for one reason and another. I've lost or given away records from previous searches while I've been away..

Are the results you have been kind enough to post available through this site or elsewhere?

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 17 Oct 2015 11:31


http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

https://familysearch.org/search



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MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 17 Oct 2015 11:39

The birth records I posted above are from https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

It's very reasonably priced to purchase credits to view images of the actual certificates

David

David Report 17 Oct 2015 12:28


Thank you MarieCeleste, thank you Austin, your help is much appreciated.

David

David Report 14 Jan 2016 19:24

Thank you again /..I had no idea Father had siblings
and obviously must have been born to other than Sarah M McLarnon