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I'm trying to find this lady's full name. She married Nathaniel Ivo E.T.W. Fiennes in 1901. My partner has a clothes brush with the monogram EEH on it and we're trying to establish whether or not it belonged to this lady (Her grandmother). I've looked on FMP and it just says Elizabeth Hill. Her father was Col. Frederick Jacob Ponsonby Hill. Thank you.

She's on a number of trees on Ancestry but none have a middle name for her.

http://www.thepeerage.com/p33630.htm

Colonel Frederick Jacob Ponsonby Hill was born on 4 October 1833 at St. Thomas, Dublin, County Dublin, Ireland.

He was the son of Major Edward Eustace Hill <<<<<<<<< and Elizabeth Kennedy. He married, firstly, Mary Newenham Watson, daughter of Solomon Watson and Ellinor Sargent, on 24 October 1863 at St. George Hanover Square, London, England.

He married, secondly, Anna Rose Newton in 1903. He died on 7 March 1917 at age 83 at Bournemouth, Hampshire, England.

He was commissioned, in the service of the 1st (Royal) Regiment. He gained the rank of Colonel in the service of the Royal Scots.

Children of Colonel Frederick Jacob Ponsonby Hill and Mary Newenham Watson
Ellen Beresford Hill b. 1866
Frederick Ponsonby Hill b. 4 Sep 1867, d. 1902
Letitia Morris Hill b. 20 Mar 1870, d. 1947
Reverend Edward Eustace Hill b. 1877, d. 1 Dec 1958 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Elizabeth Hill b. 12 Feb 1878, d. 5 Dec 1968
William Dudley Hill b. 24 Mar 1882, d. 13 May 1915

Perhaps the brush originally belonged to the Colonel's Father - Major Edward Eustace Hill, or the Colonels son Reverend Edward Eustace Hill??

Name:Elizabeth Hill

Gender:Female

Birth Date:12 Feb 1878

Birth Place:Dublin, Ireland

Father's name:Frederich Jacob Ponoeaby Hill

Mother's name:Elizabeth Newsonham Watson Hill

FHL Film Number:255998

(not belonging to Edward Eustace Hill was it!)

Chris :)

HeyJudeB4Beatles Report 30 Mar 2013 08:32

Edward and Elizabeth's marriage - The Times: 1922 Marriage, 20 April 1922, at St Margaret's, Addington, Kent, Edward Eustace Hill, Chaplain, Bombay, son of the late Lt Col F J P Hill, 1st Royal Scots, married to Elizabeth Cator, only daughter of Lt Comdr B A Cator, of Orchards, West Mallin

So could Richard Eustace and Cicily Margaret be twins born in India?

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1322269?page=1

Name Frederick Jacob Po...Sonby Hill
Gender Male
Son William Dudley Hill

Other information in the record of William Dudley Hill and Florence Rachel Clifton

from England Marriages, 1538–1973

Name William Dudley Hill
Spouse's Name Florence Rachel Clifton
Event Date 21 Apr 1903
Event Place Hale, Surrey, England
Father's Name Frederick Jacob Po...Sonby Hill
Spouse's Father's Name William Snow Clifton

Name Frederick Jacob P Hill
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year 1903
Registration District Christchurch
County Hampshire
Event Place Christchurch, Hampshire, England
Volume 2B
Page 1004
Line Number 57

Frederick Jacob P Hill probably married one of the following people
Name Gertrude Maude Cook
Name Anna Rosa Newton

Other information in the record of William Dudley Hill and Florence Rachel Clifton

from England Marriages, 1538–1973

Name William Dudley Hill
Birth Date 1882
Age 21
Spouse's Name Florence Rachel Clifton
Spouse's Birth Date 1881
Spouse's Age 22
Event Date 21 Apr 1903
Event Place Hale, Surrey, England
Father's Name Frederick Jacob Po...Sonby Hill
Spouse's Father's Name William Snow Clifton

Name Frederick Jacob Pondenly? Hill
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1863
Registration District St. George Hanover Square
County London
Event Place St. George Hanover Square, London, England
Volume 1A
Page 411
Line Number 40

Frederick Jacob Pondenly? Hill probably married one of the following people

Name Ann Eliza Stephens
Name Elzabeth Newenham Watson

Name Nathaniel I E T W Fiennes
Event Type Death
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1963
Registration District Alton
County Hampshire
Event Place Alton, Hampshire, England
Age (available after 1866) 87
Birth Year (Estimated) 1876
Volume 6B
Page 52
Line Number 135

Nathaniel Ivo E Fiennes

England and Wales Marriage Registration Index

Name Nathaniel Ivo E Fiennes
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Year 1901
Registration District Christchurch
County Hampshire
Event Place Christchurch, Hampshire, England
Volume 2B
Page 1473
Line Number 235

Nathaniel Ivo E Fiennes probably married one of the following people
Name Elizabeth Hill

Nathaniel Ivo Edward T-W-Fiennes

Birthdate: 1876
Death: Died 1963

Immediate Family:

Son of Ivo de Vesci Edward T-W-Fiennes and Isabella Emily Gregg
Husband of Elizabeth Ponsonby Twisleton-Wyckem-Fiennes
Father of Idonea C de V T-W-Fiennes; Geoffrey Ivo F T-W-Fiennes and Elizabeth M T-W-Fiennes
Brother of Bertram Ralph Ivo Ivo T-W-Fiennes; Dorothy M I T-W-Fiennes and Eva Caroline Caroline T-W-Fiennes

Colonel Frederick Jacob Ponsonby Hill1

M, #336291, b. 4 October 1833, d. 7 March 1917




Last Edited=5 Nov 2011

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Colonel Frederick Jacob Ponsonby Hill was born on 4 October 1833 at St. Thomas, Dublin, County Dublin, Ireland.2 He was the son of Major Edward Eustace Hill and Elizabeth Kennedy.2 He married, firstly, Mary Newenham Watson, daughter of Solomon Watson and Ellinor Sargent, on 24 October 1863 at St. George Hanover Square, London, England.2 He married, secondly, Anna Rose Newton in 1903.2 He died on 7 March 1917 at age 83 at Bournemouth, Hampshire, England.3
He was commissioned, in the service of the 1st (Royal) Regiment.2 He gained the rank of Colonel in the service of the Royal Scots.1


Children of Colonel Frederick Jacob Ponsonby Hill and Mary Newenham Watson
1.Ellen Beresford Hill2 b. 1866
2.Frederick Ponsonby Hill2 b. 4 Sep 1867, d. 1902
3.Letitia Morris Hill+2 b. 20 Mar 1870, d. 1947
4.Reverend Edward Eustace Hill+2 b. 1877, d. 1 Dec 1958
5.Elizabeth Hill+4 b. 12 Feb 1878, d. 5 Dec 1968
6.William Dudley Hill+5 b. 24 Mar 1882, d. 13 May 1915

nowhere does it give a middle name

I tend towards greyghost's theory that the brush might have belonged to the Colonel's father or son. Actually a clothes brush with a name inscribed on it does sound more like the kind of thing that a military man might possess.

Yes Margee....it sounds more "male" doesn't it?

Jude

Marriage annoucement is in the Gloucestershire Echo dated 23 Oct 1901.

Marriage to take place on 31st inst at Bournemouth.
The announcement states her name was ELSIE Hill, daughter of Colonel Hill of Boscombe, Bournemouth.

" The marriage will take place at Bournemouth on 31st ist of:
Lieut Nathaniel Ivo Edward Fiennes, Royal Field Artillery.
The only son of of the late Colonel Ivo Fiennes, 9th Lancers and the Hon Mrs Ivo Fiennes of Hassendean, Bournemouth, and nephew of Lords Saye and Sele, and Miss Elsie Hill, daughter of Colonel Hill of Boscombe, Bournemouth.
The bridegroom's eldest brother, Bertram Ralph Ivo who was also in the Army, died at Gibraltar a few years ago of enteric fever, immediately on landing at that place from the Egyptian War"

Also in Sevenoaks Chronicle and Kentish Advertiser dated 20 Sep 1901.
This time she is listed as Elizabeth (Elsie) Hill and her father confirmed as:
Colonel Frederick J Posonby Hill of Cambridge House, Boscombe, Bournemouth

It seems his cousin also married in Reading on 1st Oct 1901
Hon Ivo Henry John T Fiennes, son of Lord and Lady Saye and Sele. to Mabel WF Blandy.
Large article listing all their wedding gifts!