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I am trying to find my great grandfather Harry Egleton born 1896. He had 3 children by Emily Eagleton from Winslow, Bucks born 1874. The children were Walter Lawrence born 1894, Frederick M Born 1901, and Harry M born 1897 who was also my grandfather. Harry was a restaurant cook in Camberwell, Surrey who I believe was also in the merchant navy. Emily, Walter, Frederick and Harry were in and out of the Southwark work house several times. My dad is Ronald Frederick Egleton born 1926 in London. I would appreciate any information available about my fathers family.

Regards. Lesley Webb nee Egleton

This is the nearest I can find to the name of your father in the 1939 Register:-

Eglinton Household (5 People)
7 Lant House Church Hall , Southwark, London, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS

Ronald F Eglinton 25 Jun 1926 Male At School Single<<<<<<<<<<<<
3 more people who are officially closed
Benjamin Eglinton 30 Oct 1897 Male Bread Baker Married
3 more people who are officially closed
Gertrude M Eglinton 29 Oct 1899 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
3 more people who are officially closed
Stanley (John) Eglinton 11 May 1852 Male Boot & Shoe Repairer Single
3 more people who are officially closed
Leslie A Eglinton 18 Aug 1923 Male Glazer Single
3 more people who are officially closed

This may not be him as the name is slightly different.

Kath. x

Walter in 1911
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
50 Richardson Street Long Lane B Dsy SE, Bermondsey, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Harritt Alderson Head Widow Female Jam Factory Hand 58 1853 Southwark London
Edward Alderson Son Single Male General Porter 21 1890 Bermondsey London
Walter Egleton Boarder Single Male Shop Assistant 17 1894 Kentish Town London

? Frederick in 1911 - Newington is part of 1the London borough of Southwark where 1901 says he was born

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Frederick
Last name Eggleton
Relationship Inmate
Sex Male
Occupation Scholar
Age 9
Birth year 1902
Birth place London Newington
Address Greenford Avenue Hanwell
Parish Hanwell
County Middlesex
Country England
Archive reference RG14
Registration district Brentford
Registration district number 128
Enumeration district 14
District number -
Sub district Hanwell
Sub district number 3
Census reference RG14PN6867 RG78PN342 RD128 SD3 ED14 SN1
Piece number 6867

? And Harry

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Harry
Last name Eggleton
Relationship Inmate
Sex Male
Occupation Scholar
Age 13
Birth year 1898
Birth place London Newington
Address Greenford Avenue Hanwell
Parish Hanwell
County Middlesex
Country England
Archive reference RG14
Registration district Brentford
Registration district number 128
Enumeration district 14
District number -
Sub district Hanwell
Sub district number 3
Census reference RG14PN6867 RG78PN342 RD128 SD3 ED14 SN1
Piece number 6867
Folio -
Page -

Emily -
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) Emily
Last name Eggleton
Relationship Inmate
Marital status Single
Sex Female
Occupation No Occupation
Age 35
Birth year 1876
Birth place Bucks Winslow
Address Westmoreland Roads Walworth S E
Parish St Mary Newington
County London
Country England
Archive reference RG14
Registration district Southwark
Registration district number 23
Enumeration district 38
District number -
Sub district Newington South
Sub district number 5
Census reference RG14PN1856 RD23 SD5 ED38 SN1
Piece number 1856
Folio -

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I'm wondering about this for Harry Senior - right age and area. Original says born Christchurch, Surrey.

John is listed on the original as Blind from Birth and Deaf

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cottage Court, Newington, St Saviour Southwark, London, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Martin Head Married Male 57 1824 Street Hawker Surrey, England
Sarah Martin Wife Married Female 43 1838 Street Singer Middlesex, England
John Martin Son Single Male 15 1866 Printer Surrey, England
Henry Martin Son Single Male 13 1868 Scholar Surrey, England
Robert Martin Son Single Male 13 1868 Scholar Surrey, England
Caroline Martin Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Surrey, England
George Martin Son Single Male 3 1878 Scholar Newington, Surrey, England
Mary Ann Martin Daughter Single Female 1 1880 Scholar Newington, Surrey, England

Census details
Birth town as transcribed CHRIST CHURCH
Birth county as transcribed SURREY
Parish Newington
County London, Surrey
Registration district St Saviour Southwark
Archive reference RG11
Piece number 554
Folio 51
Page 38

Welcome to the Community boards Lesley.



(I'll let Lesley know how to find her replies) :-)

Name: Harry Martin Egleton
Registration Year: 1896
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 29

Name: Harry Egleton
Birth Date: 1897
Admission Age: 6
Admission Date: 25 May 1903
Record Type: Admission
Borough: Southwark
Parish or Poor Law Union: Camberwell
Place: London, England
Title: Constance Road Workhouse, 1902-1903

CHILD OF EMILY A SINGLE WOMEN. Also Frederick 1900 is on the same page Walter 1894 and then Harry 1897.

Name: Harry Egleton
Birth Date: 1896
Admission Age: 8
Admission Date: 29 Oct 1904
Record Type: Admission
Borough: Southwark
Parish or Poor Law Union: Camberwell
Place: London, England
Title: Scattered Homes, Peckham, 1902-1907
IT ALSO SAYS Mo. Emily a Housekeeper in GR Workhouse. Tranfered

Name: Harry Egleton
Birth Date: 1896
Discharge Date: 8 Dec 1904
Record Type: Discharge
Borough: Southwark
Parish or Poor Law Union: Camberwell
Title: Scattered Homes, Peckham, 1902-1907

Re Frederick Martin Egleton:

UK, Royal Navy Registers of Seamen's Services
Name Frederick Martin Egleton
Gender Male
Birth Date 28 Jan 1900
Birth Place Southwark
Service Number K49362
First Service Date 4 Feb 1918
First Ship Served On Vivid II
Last Service Date 21 Feb 1919
Last Ship Served On Diligence
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School record (matches birth date on seaman's record)

London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911
Name: Frederick Egleton
Age: 4
Birth Date: 28 Jan 1900
School: King And Queen Street School
Borough: Southwark
Admission Date: 17 Jan 1905
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He's also listed as Merchant seaman:
First name(s) Frederick Martin
Last name Egleton
Event year 1918
Birth year 1900
Birth place London
Birth date 28 Jan 1900
Identity certificate number 408425
Card type CR10
Series BT350
Date range 1918-1921

The card has a photo of him- I'll pm the record incase you don't have it

Walter??

1939 register:

Egleton Household (4 People) 8 Merlin Garden , Lewisham, London, England

Walter L Egleton 08 Jul 1893 Male Fritters Ass Locomotive Railway Heavy Worker Married
2 more people who are officially closed
Mary A F (Florence M Julie) Egleton 13 Sep 1894 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
2 more people who are officially closed
Walter L Egleton 29 Apr 1917 Male Railway Fireman Single
2 more people who are officially closed
Leslie H Egleton 01 Apr 1924 Male Learner Pashing Car Maker Single
2 more people who are officially closed
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EDIT: Yes above is correct Walter- matches DOB on workhouse register:

Name: Walter Eggleton
Birth Date: 8 Jul 1893
Admission Age: 11
Admission Date: 16 Jan 1905
Record Type: Admission
Borough: Southwark
Parish or Poor Law Union: Southwark
Place: London, England
Title: Newington Workhouse, Westmoreland Road Register, 1904-1905

Harry's DOB on the Workhouse admission register in 1905 was given as 1st July 1896.

From that DOB this record comes up on the 1939 register:

Egleton Household (3 People) 488 Baring Road , Lewisham, London, England

Henry Egleton 01 Jul 1896 Male Armature Winder (Elec) Heavy Work ? Married
2 more people who are officially closed
Harry Egleton 14 Jul 1919 Male Blacksmiths & Hammerer Heavy Work Single
2 more people who are officially closed
Florence Egleton 25 Apr 1898 Female Household Duties Married
2 more people who are officially closed

I suspect your Father Ronald is one of the closed records.
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Harry Martin Egleton married Florence Doran- the marriage has been transcribed badly from the indexes- this is what FreeBMD have, although the original definitely says Harry/ Henry M:

Marriages Dec 1918

DORAN Florence Eglston Greenwich 1d 1943
EGL* Henry F Doran Greenwich 1d 1943
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Your Grandad died in 1961 at the same address he was at in 1939:

England & Wales, National Probate Calendar

EGLETON Harry otherwise Henry of 488 Barring Road, London S E 12 died 29 January 1961 Administration London 19 May to Florence Egleton widow. Effects £275 16s

I see you have opened the message I sent with seaman's card for Frederick Martin Egleton.

A reply would help- it's always easier when people respond- it at least tells us we're on the right track and that you're interested. Of course, you maybe busy- ( I don't mean to offend, just to say I hope we get some feedback soon )

You can add any comments or further information in the box below 'Add your reply'

Regards,
Austin

Hello Lesley- thanks for your reply.

It's easier if you reply at the bottom of your thread, that way more people see and will be able to help. I'm just going to copy your message on the thread. Seems like you have your hands full with the Grandchildren!
I am not related to your family- we all just like solving mysteries and enjoy genealogy. I don't have much time today, but will have another look at your family when I get time- but please, take time to look at the information that has already been included above.


Lesley Reply:

"Hi Austin q. Thank you for your reply. I am sorry that I did not reply earlier but I have been looking after 2 grandchildren. The name and date of birth is right. I have been searching for the Egleton family for a while but not having much success. My dad Ronald Frederick Egleton born 10 March 1926, does not seem to remember much any further back than his father.
He did mention Frederick Martin who he thinks died young. He has told me about Walter Lawrence egleton, his dad Henry martin and his two brothers and mum spent a bit of time in a workhouse. The children were in Hanwell school when Charlie Chaplin was there. Henry martin married my nan Florence nee Doran. If you could give me any further information about the Egleton family I would be very grateful.

Regards. Lesley webb nee Egleton.
Please can I have access to your family tree . You can have access to my family tree."

Thank you for your help. All information except Kathleen bell is correct. I appreciate it very much. Sorry about delay in answering, looking after grandchildren.
Lesley