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Polish migration after ww2 /r.v.w camp

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Esther

Esther Report 15 Jul 2016 16:16

Hello
I have just received my grandparents wedding certificate in the hope of finding where they come from. As far as I know they were both born in Poland and came over during or after the war. He (Stefan Czarnobaj) was living in R.V.W camp in campden Glos. does anyone know what that was?
She (Karolina korzeniowska) was living at the highways hostel in Euxton, which I have found a little information about.
So I was wondering if anyone could shed any light on the camp, on travel or displacement records and in tracing ancestry in Poland.

Thank you in advance

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Jul 2016 16:26


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish
Name: Stefan Czarnobaj
Birth: 2 Sep 1918
Death: Mar 1979 - Manchester, Greater Manchester, England

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Jul 2016 16:27


England & Wales, Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish
Name: Stefan Czarnobaj
Spouse: Karolina Korzeniowska
Marriage: Dec 1949 - Chorley, Lancashire
Other: QApr-Oct-Nov-Dec 1949

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Jul 2016 16:29


England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2007
Birth, Marriage & Death, including Parish
Name: Karolina Czarnobaj
Birth: 3 Oct 1922
Death: Jun 1980 - Manchester, Greater Manchester, England

I expect you have this info but it may help others who are looking.

Mel

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Jul 2016 16:39

Maybe??


Karolina Korozynska
New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island)
Given Name Karolina
Surname Korozynska
Last Place of Residence Kuta, Galicia
Event Date 20 May 1913
Age 19y
Nationality Austria-Hebrew
Departure Port Bremen
Arrival Port New York
Gender Female
Marital Status S
Ship Name Kaiser Wilhelm II

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Jul 2016 16:46

Name: Karoline Karczansky
Birth Date: abt 1890
Age: 20
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 18 Apr 1910
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Mauretania
Search Ship Database: Search for the Mauretania in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 124093


Nah seems that one was a wife to a Peter.***********************************

Esther

Esther Report 15 Jul 2016 16:48

Not sure about the about the New York passenger list. The deaths are right they died a few years before I was born.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 15 Jul 2016 17:23

Can't seem to find anything else.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 15 Jul 2016 20:40

Did they marry in church?... Just wondering about other records that might be out there.

Is it possible that Stefan served in the Army here?
If so, you might be able to apply for a copy of his Army record.

We did this for a deceased Polish relative, who settled in UK and found it very informative, giving place of birth, parents names and a sibling's name too, as well as a photo of the man who served.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 15 Jul 2016 21:59

Re RVW camp -

Maybe try asking Chipping Campden History Society?

http://www.chippingcampdenhistory.org.uk/category/contact

There's nothing about the camp on their website, as far as I can see, but it might be worth asking them.

Andysmum

Andysmum Report 15 Jul 2016 22:19

This looks as though it might be of interest.

http://www.polishresettlementcampsintheuk.co.uk/

Esther

Esther Report 15 Jul 2016 23:23

Yes they did marry in a church, st Mary's, mount pleasant, Chorley. I know he fought in the war and was in the trenches but whether that was for the English or Polish army I don't know. How would I go about getting his army record?
Thank you for the web links.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Jul 2016 04:03

Are you sure that it was R VW camp??

I've found reference to E V W camps after WW2, with E V W standing for European Voluntary Workers

These were persons from continental Europe invited by the British government in 1946-1951 to work in the United Kingdom in sectors experiencing labour shortages as a result of the Second World War. The largest EVW programme, in terms of numbers of workers, was the Westward Ho! scheme approved in 1946. It involved the recruitment of men and women of predominantly Eastern European origin, including Ukrainians, from displaced persons camps mainly in Germany and Austria.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Jul 2016 04:07

possible helpful references found by Googling polish evw workers ...............

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Voluntary_Workers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poles_in_the_United_Kingdom


Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 16 Jul 2016 06:01

Korzeniowski coming up on below, not seeing Stefan Czarnobaj...

(Nationality and Naturalisation)

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/

(see box top right corner, click down arrow, to 'Search our records' enter Surname etc.)

Chris :)

(Probates below for them)

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

(Wills and Probate 1858 – 1996)


(comes up as below, Newspapers)

Highways Hostel. Balshaw-lane, Euxton

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 16 Jul 2016 09:09

There's lots of info about Polish refugees and resettlement if you Google it.

For instance, here's a bit about Springhill Camp, at Campden, as a resettlement camp.

http://www.polishresettlementcampsintheuk.co.uk/springhill01.htm

Also, apparently, when Springhill was a German POW camp during the war, there were some Poles there too, who had fought with the Germans:

http://tinyurl.com/zw894vd

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 16 Jul 2016 11:00

This was the address and telephone number we used.
It was a few years ago now, so I hope they are still the same.

Ministry of Defence (for army records of Polish servicemen)
APC Polish Enquiries
Building 28 B RAF Northolt
West End Road
Ruislip
Middlesex
HA4 6NG

020 8833 8603