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Looking for the parents of a couple of individuals.Paricularly on 1881 & 1891 censuses.All help MUCH appreciated.
Sarah French-married 1892 in Ulverston to Benjamin Pearson.
Sarah is born 1874-5 in Oldbury,Benjamin born 1873 in Dudley.
CHEERS.

What were their father's names?
This should be on the marriage cert.


Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%)
Atkinson Dinah Ann Barrow F. 8e 1377
French Sarah Elizabeth Barrow F. 8e 1377
Gardner William Henry Barrow F. 8e 1377
Pearson Benjamin Barrow F. 8e 1377

Not with parents 1891:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Grosvenor Street, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England

Samuel Jones Head Married Male 40 1851 General Labourer Dudley, Worcestershire,
Sarah Jones Wife Married Female 40 1851 - Dudley, Worcestershire,
Henry Jones Son Single Male 19 1872 General Labourer Dudley, Worcestershire,
Samuel Jones Son Single Male 4 1887 - Barrow, Lancashire,
Benjamin Pearson Boarder Single Male 18 1873 General Labourer Worcestershire,

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
48, Howe Street, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England

Samuel Jones Head Married Male 29 1852 Labourer Iron Wks Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Sarah Jones Wife Married Female 29 1852 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Henry Willis Jones Son Single Male 9 1872 Scholar Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Benjamin Pearson Nephew Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Dudley, Worcestershire, England
William Pearson Brother Single Male 19 1862 Labourer Iron Wks Dudley, Worcestershire,
Joseph Pearson Step Father Widower Male 65 1816 Labourer Iron Works Dudley, Worcestershire,

Her birth

Births Dec 1875 (>99%)
French Sarah Elizabeth W. Bromwich 6b 753
The district W. Bromwich is an alternative name for West Bromwich and it spans the boundaries of the counties of Worcestershire, Shropshire, Warwickshire and Staffordshire;

Possible
1881
Name: Sarah French
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1875
Relationship to Head: Daughter
Mother: Martha French
Gender: Female
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Walsall Borough
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 41 Hill St
Education:
Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2823
Folio: 14
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Martha French 34
Selina French 12
Edward French 10
John French 9
Mary French 8
Sarah French 6
Martha French 5
David French 2
Joshua Jackson 63


1871
Name: Selina French
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Richard French
Mother's name: Martha French
Gender: Female
Where born: Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Civil Parish: Walsall
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
Town: Walsall
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Walsall
Sub-registration district: Walsall
ED, institution, or vessel: 34
Household schedule number: 191
Piece: 2965
Folio: 67
Page Number: 43
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard French 24 born: Paddington, Bedfordshire (occupation - man Servant Carter)
Martha French 21
Selina French 2
Edward French 8 Months


Name: Richard French
Estimated birth year: abt 1843
Registration Year: 1880
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 37
Registration district: Walsall
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 09


Name: Richard French
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1845
Age: 22
Spouse's Name: Martha Upton
Spouse's Age: 21
Spouse's Father's Name: William Upton
Marriage Date: 25 Sep 1867
Marriage Place: Walsall, Staffordshire, England

You really need the marriage certifiicate to check father's names.

Ancestry links above Sarah to Sarah Jarvis so sbove is possibly not her but marriage states her name is Sarah Elizabeth so there are not that many to choose from so ?

????

FRENCH, SARAH ELIZABETH HADLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 753

(looking on GRO Index, Rodway for Benjamin born below, if him)

Chris :)

West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1873

PEARSON Benjamin Dudley (DUD) Dudley Register Office DUD/132/299


West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1866

RODWAY Mary A PEARSON Emmanuel Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202

http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/index.php

England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription
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First name(s) Fanny
Last name Hadley
Name note -
Marriage year 1872
Marriage date 05 May 1872
Marriage place Aston Juxta Birmingham
Spouse's first name(s) Thomas
Spouse's last name French
County Warwickshire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain

(looking on 1881, Emmanuel Pearson has another Benjamin born 1879, so perhaps 1873 had died checking on below. Ignore above from me, lol)

Chris :)

West Midlands Death indexes for the years: 1873

PEARSON Benjamin Dudley (DUD) Dudley Register Office DUD/074/165


West Midlands Death indexes for the years: 1875

PEARSON Benjamin Dudley (DUD) Dudley Register Office DUD/077/7
PEARSON Benjamin Dudley (DUD) Dudley Register Office DUD/078/383

If Sarah's mother was Fanny Hadley, then this could be her in 1871

Name: Fanny Hadley
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Thomas Hadley
Mother's name: Sarah Hadley
Gender: Female
Where born: Round Green Oldbury, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Oldbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Trinity
Town: Oldbury
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Oldbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 138
Piece: 2976
Folio: 63
Page Number: 31
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hadley 37 - born: Round Green Oldbury, Worcestershire
Sarah Hadley 36 - born: Round Green Oldbury, Worcestershire
Fanny Hadley 18
William Hadley 17
Thomas Hadley 14
Nathaniel Hadley 11
Samuel Hadley 7
Benjamin Hadley 4
Benjamin Sadler 48
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1861
Name: Francis Hadley
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: Thomas Hadley
Mother's name: Sarah Hadley
Gender: Female
Where born: Oldbury, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Oldbury
Ecclesiastical parish: Oldbury
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address:
Registration district: West Bromwich
Sub-registration district: Oldbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 26
Piece: 2022
Folio: 5
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hadley 27
Sarah Hadley 26
Francis Hadley 8
William Hadley 6
Thomas Hadley 3
Nathaniel Hadley 1
.................................................

Possible death of father

Deaths Jun 1879 (>99%)
Hadley Thomas 45 W. Bromwich 6b 459
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1881 children are lodging at various addresses.

***just got the marriage certificate this morning.Benjamin Pearson (1873) fathers name was also Benjamin-a labourer.His address is given as:-29,Grosvenor Street,Barrow-in-Furness.I'm currently searching for father Benjamin(Seniors) marriage & all the census info.***.

Sarah Elizabeth French is given as 19 years of age on marriage certificate of 7th July,18
94.Her fathers name was Thomas-a labourer,of 6,Prospect Road,Barrow-in-Furness.The witnesses were:- Benjamin Rawlinson & Elizabeth Newsham.I'm currently searching for Sarah Elizabeth Frenchs birth,Thomas's marriage & the census details-any help MUCH appreciated.

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
29, Grosvenor Street, Barrow, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Benjamin Pearson Head Married Male 28 1873 Railbank Labourer Dudley, Worcestershire, England
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Sarah Pearson Wife Married Female 26 1875 - Oldbury, Worcestershire, England
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Beatrice Pearson Daughter Single Female 6 1895 - Barrow, Lancashire, England
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Benjamin Pearson Son Single Male 5 1896 - Barrow, Lancashire, England
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William Pearson Son Single Male 2 1899 - Barrow, Lancashire, England
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Thomas Pearson Son Single Male 0 1901 - Barrow, Lancashire, England



Could this be his father I wonder? Same address as above.


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
29, Grosvenor Street, Barrow, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Benjamin Pearson Head Married Male 46 1855 Railbank Labourer Dudley, Worcestershire, England
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Ann Pearson Wife Married Female 46 1855 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
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William Pearson Son Single Male 12 1889 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England



This is the Pearson family but they have been mistranscribed as Barron.


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Bradford Street, Barrow in Furness, Lancashire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Benjamin Barron Head Married Male 35 1856 General Labourer Dudley, Worcestershire, England
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Ann Barron Wife Married Female 35 1856 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
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Ellen Barron Daughter Single Female 14 1877 Scholar Dudley, Worcestershire, England
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Amelia Barron Daughter Single Female 5 1886 Scholar Dudley, Worcestershire, England
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William Barron Son Single Male 2 1889 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
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Joseph Barron Father Married Male 73 1818 Retired Rail Maker Lye, Worcestershire, England
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Amelia Barron Mother Married Female 62 1829 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England



1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
20, Mamble, Dudley (Worcs), Dudley, Staffordshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Benjamin Pearson Head Married Male 27 1854 Iron Worker Dudley, Worcestershire, England
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Ann Pearson Wife Married Female 27 1854 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
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Ellen Pearson Daughter Single Female 4 1877 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
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James Pearson Son Single Male 2 1879 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
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Amelia Pearson Mother Married Female 50 1831 Charwoman Dudley, Worcestershire, England
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Charlotte Pearson Sister Single Female 16 1865 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England



1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Tower Street (Court), Dudley, Staffordshire, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Pearson Head - Male 49 1822 - Worcestershire, England
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Amelia Pearson Wife - Female 40 1831 - Worcestershire, England
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Sarah Pearson Daughter - Female 20 1851 - Worcestershire, England
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Benjamin Pearson Son - Male 16 1855 - Worcestershire, England
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John Pearson Son - Male 14 1857 - Worcestershire, England
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William Pearson Son - Male 11 1860 - Worcestershire, England
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Charlotte Pearson Daughter - Female 6 1865 - Worcestershire, England



Sarah Jones in the 1891 census is possibly Sarah Pearson. Joseph Pearson in 1891 could be this Joseph.

THANK YOU everyone for all your help,MUCH APPRECIATED.
Still can't find a marriage of Benjamin Pearson senior(1855) to Ann?
Can't find any census records for Thomas French either? Possibly found his birth in 1849 in West
Bromwich?

Same address in 1911 - married 35 years, ie 1875/6
Name:Benjamin Pearson
Age in 1911:57
Estimated birth year:abt 1854
Relation to Head:Head
Gender:Male
Birth Place:Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish:Barrow in Furness
Street address:29 Grosovenor St Barrow In Furness Lancashire
Marital Status:Married
Occupation:Labourer Steel Works
Registration district:Barrow in Furness
Registration District Number:482
Sub-registration district:Barrow in Furness
ED, institution, or vessel:32
Piece:25682

Benjamin Pearson 57
Sarah Ann Pearson 57
William Pearson 22
Peter Steel 30
Amelia Steel 25
John Steel 9/12

Possible marriage, although births of other children give MMN as Poole, eg:

PEARSON, WILLIAM POOLE Order
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 130

So, marriage is after Benjamin junior's birth.

Could this be Benjamin's birth:

POOLE, BENJAMIN PEARSON - GRO Reference: 1872 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 146

No MMN given on GRO site

Nice find on that birth Potty.

marriage (FMP Transcription):
First name(s) Benjamin
Last name Pearson
Name note Occupation Ironworker, Residence Dudley
Age 29
Marriage year 1883
Marriage date 23 Dec 1883
Marriage place Lower Gornall
Father's first name(s) Joseph
Father's last name Pearson
Spouse's first name(s) Anne
Spouse's last name Poole
Spouse's birth year 1854
Spouse's birth date 1854
Spouse's father's first name(s) Benjamin
Spouse's father's last name Poole
Residence Lower Gornall, Stafford, England
County Staffordshire
Country England

(well done folks, been sitting here looking at below, while the kettle was boiling, lol, if anything in it!)

Chris :)

West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1872

POOLE Benjamin P Dudley (DUD) Dudley Register Office DUD

http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/


1871 (Find My Past)
Mary Poole Head - Female 45 1826 - Worcestershire, England
Benjamin Poole Son - Male 20 1851 - Worcestershire, England
Joseph Poole Son - Male 18 1853 - Worcestershire, England
Sarah A Poole Daughter - Female 15 1856 - Worcestershire, England
Mary Poole Daughter - Female 13 1858 - Worcestershire, England
Hannah Poole Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Worcestershire, England
Martha Poole Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Worcestershire, England
John Poole Son - Male 6 1865 - Worcestershire, England
Elizabeth Poole Daughter - Female 4 1867 - Worcestershire, England
Street Oakey Well Street Mamble
Parish Dudley
City Dudley
County Staffordshire
Registration district Dudley
Archive reference RG10
Piece number 3011
Folio 104
Page 21

(notes Mamble above as 1881)


1861 (Find My Past)
Benjn Pool Head Married Male 36 1825 Boat Maker (?) Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Mary Pool Wife Married Female 33 1828 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Thos Bater Son - Male 13 1848 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Benjn Pool Son - Male 10 1851 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Thos Pool Son - Male 9 1852 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Ann Pool Daughter - Female 7 1854 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Mary Pool Daughter - Female 5 1856 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Hannah Pool Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Hannah Loyd Servant - Female 14 1847 - Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Street High Street
Parish Dudley
Town Dudley
County Staffordshire
Parliamentary borough Dudley
Ecclesiastical district St Johns
Registration district Dudley
Enumeration district 34
Archive reference RG09
Piece number 2060
Folio number 7

Well done for that marriage, Austin. I wonder what took them so long?

Once again,MANY THANKS everyone for all your help,MUCH APPRECIATED.