Baptised twice

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Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	alviegal	Report	18 Jan 2017 14:20
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	Would anyone have any idea why a person would have two baptisms? I have Adelaide who goes through one baptism and then a few years later gets baptised with 2 sisters. They are the same person born 31 Dec 1846 ( the date is on the record) to Josiah, a merchant, and Jane of 40 Dorset Square. Name: Adelaide Mary Brockwell Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 15 Aug 1848 Father's name: Joseph Brockwell Mother's name: Jane Brockwell Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone Christ Church Borough: Westminster Register Type: Parish Registers Name: Adelaide Mary Brockwell Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 14 Feb 1851 Father's name: Josiah Brockwell Mother's name: Jane Brockwell Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone Christ Church Borough: Westminster Register Type: Parish Registers I have all other records for them, thank you, but I have not come across this happening before and was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on it? Thanks for your interest. EDIT I've just seen that her elder sister also got baptised twice. She was born 26 Oct 1845. Name: Alice Ann Brockwell Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 27 Oct 1845 Father's name: Joseph Brockwell Mother's name: Jane Brockwell Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone Christ Church Borough: Westminster Register Type: Parish Registers Name: Alice Anne Brockwell Record Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 14 Feb 1851 Father's name: Josiah Brockwell Mother's name: Janet Brockwell [Jane Brockwell] Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone Christ Church Borough: Westminster Register Type: Parish Registers
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	alviegal	Report	18 Jan 2017 14:40
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Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 23,482 Send Message	MargaretM	Report	18 Jan 2017 15:56
	I see a third sister was also baptized the same day in 1851. She was Julia Louisa born 17 April 1849.
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Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	alviegal	Report	18 Jan 2017 16:28
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	Yes she was just baptised once as were all the other siblings. Can't understand why Adelaide and Alice would be baptised twice though.
Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 24,447 Send Message	Dea	Report	18 Jan 2017 18:47
	Were they born before the marriage?? Was one baptism a non-conformist one?? Did they have a change of faith?? Just some thoughts............ Dea x
Member Since: February 2003 Posts: 29,988 Send Message	+++DetEcTive+++	Report	18 Jan 2017 18:48
	One of mine was baptised twice because the school he attended wanted proof of his age. He was born shortly before registration was compulsary and baptised the second time when he was about 8. I can only assume that they'd lost the certificate of baptism, if one ever existed. Perhaps the same occured here? In addition, some employers wanted proof that their workers were 'christian' or at least morally upstanding. Quite often their children were baptised in bulk.
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Member Since: December 2004 Posts: 24,447 Send Message	Dea	Report	18 Jan 2017 18:55
	Maybe it is in the name - I note that the first baptisms were to JOSEPH and Jane and the second to JOSIAH and Jane - either they are diffent couples or maybe they used the wrong name at first and felt the need to correct it ?? Dea x
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,835 Send Message	malyon	Report	18 Jan 2017 19:28
	here they are in 1851 census Name Adelaide M Brockwell Event Type Census Event Date 1851 Event Place Saint Marylebone, Middlesex, England Registration District Marylebone Residence Note Dorset Square Gender Female Age 4 Relationship to Head of Household Niece Birth Year (Estimated) 1847 Birthplace Marylebone, Middlesex Age Birthplace Daniel Coruthwaithe Head M 52 Lancaster, Jane Brockwell Sister F 42 Lancaster, Josiah Brockwell Brother In Law M 52 London, Middlesex Jane Brockwell Visitor F 13 Marylebone, Middlesex Arthur Brockwell Nephew M 11 Marylebone, Middlesex Elizabeth G Brockwell Niece F 9 Marylebone, Middlesex John Brockwell Nephew M 8 Marylebone, Middlesex Ellen Rosse Brockwell Niece F 6 Marylebone, Middlesex Alice Ann Brockwell Niece F 5 Marylebone, Middlesex Adelaide M Brockwell Niece F 4 Marylebone, Middlesex Julia Lucy Brockwell Niece F 1 Marylebone, Middlesex
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,835 Send Message	malyon	Report	18 Jan 2017 19:31
	don't look like they married Sub-District East Brighton Registration District Brighton Residence Note College Road Gender Female Age 52 Occupation LIVING ON OWN MEANS Birth Year (Estimated) 1849 Birthplace London Schedule Type 72 Page Number 9 Household Role Gender Age Birthplace Alice A Brockwell F 54 London Adelaide M Brockwell F 52 London Julia L Brockwell F 50 London
Member Since: October 2004 Posts: 8,835 Send Message	malyon	Report	18 Jan 2017 19:38
	it could be they were baptised twice because the fathers name was wrong on the first baptism
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	alviegal	Report	18 Jan 2017 19:53
Member Since: July 2005 Posts: 12,291 Send Message	Thanks for all your thoughts. Parents were married in 1837, first child born 1838. Josiah was a merchant so did not have an employer. He had money problems and was declared bankrupt in 1852. Possibly the original certificates were lost as has been suggested. Dea, I thought you had possibly cracked it with the wrong name being given for the father but the original records show his correct name, Josiah was written. The transcriber appears to have made the mistake. I also found a third record for Adelaide. This is the same one that has father 'Joseph' so has been correctly transcribed this time. Name Adelaide Mary Brockwell Record Type Baptism Baptism Date 15 Aug 1848 Father's Name Josiah Brockwell Mother's Name Jane Brockwell Parish or Poor Law Union St Marylebone Christ Church Borough Westminster Register Type Parish Registers Thank you all anyway. I guess I'll never really know why this happened. <3 <3

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