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1 Feb 2017 08:47 |
Thanks Chris ,
I know 2 of the brothers , John and James, didn't know any other brothers apart from Luke who would have only been 16 at the time.
I know of a couple of cousins , one Patrick O 'Hagan who died 1917 in France will have to check on the others.
Oops ,sorry strike that about Luke.
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31 Jan 2017 20:52 |
(saw below)
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09 August 1915 - The Scotsman - Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland
Glasgow Daniel Malley 1/7th H.L.I. whose Mother resides at 31, Kirk St, Calton, was killed at the Dardanelles. Prior to enlisting he was with Messrs. Stewart & Lloyd Rutherglen. Three brothers and four cousins of Private Malley are serving with the colours.
British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 (Ancestry)
Name: Luke Malley Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1896 Enlistment Age: 17 Document Year: 1913 Regimental Number: 1619 Number of Images: 71 Form Title: Territorial Force Attestation
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D3907511
(Medal Card reference)
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31 Jan 2017 19:21 |
Chris,
thank you so much . I had been looking for marriages for James and John, at least I know now they never married ,
Some information about children for me to go on,
thanks again
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31 Jan 2017 18:11 |
Below references so far...
(not seeing anything Service)
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Soldiers died in the Great War 1914-1919 Transcription (Find My Past)
First name(s) James Last name Malley Service number S/2801 Rank Private Regiment Seaforth Highlanders (Ross-Shire Buffs Battalion 2nd Battalion. Birth place Blackfriars, Glasgow, Lanarkshire Enlistment place Falkirk, Stirlingshire Death year 1915 Death day 2 Death month 5 Cause of death Killed in action Death place France & Flanders
First name(s) Daniel Last name Malley Service number 1757 Rank Private Regiment Highland Light Infantry Battalion 7th (Blythswood) Battalion (Territorial). Birth place Glasgow Enlistment place Glasgow Death year 1915 Death day 12 Death month 7 Cause of death Killed in action Death place Gallipoli Theatre of war Balkan Theatre
First name(s) John Last name Malley Service number 58972 Rank Dvr. Regiment Royal Horse Artillery And Royal Field Artillery Birth place Glasgow Enlistment place Glasgow Death year 1916 Death day 23 Death month 10 Cause of death Killed in action Death place France & Flanders
All UK, Army Registers of Soldiers' Effects, 1901-1929 (Ancestry)
(all 3 on above)
(under column, to whom authorised)
For Daniel, wid. Jessie, for self and child. (Amount £2 19s 6d)
For James, Fa. James, for distribution. (Amount £4 1s 10d)
For John, Fa. James, for distribution. (Amount £25 3s 6d) Sis. Margaret, Elizabeth Mrs Jessie Malley, for decd's Nieces, Christina and Elizabeth Bro. Luke
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31 Jan 2017 17:09 |
Thanks Chris,
Just had a look at that request, If it is the same Isabel who is asking about Luke Malley then I have just yesterday made contact with her but as yet she has not replied.
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Jean
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31 Jan 2017 17:00 |
I haven't got Ancestry so I have taken this from the website I mentioned. There is no number for James, he was with the Seaforth Highlanders.
John is 58972 Driver 115th Bty RFA ,
Daniel is 1757 Private 7th Battalion HLI.
Thank you for the link I will take a look.
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31 Jan 2017 16:48 |
OK Chris, I will go back and check them,
thank you
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31 Jan 2017 16:46 |
You need to put Army Numbers Jean (then hopefully they correspond to any Records online, as you know, not all survived)
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(should be on below, for a reference start)
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/british-army-medal-index-cards-1914-1920/
Edits (somebody had a query 2005 on below, for something!)
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/records_office/thread/850402?page=1
Mhairi Queen of Scots Report 7 Dec 2005 20:31
Isabel Elizabeth Malley 7/1/1927 38 East Rose Street Glasgow Luke Malley - Railway Engine Driver
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31 Jan 2017 15:59 |
Just looked at another brother to the Malley's , Luke b 1899 married 1924 in Calton, his address was 38, East Rose Street , so must be correct.
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31 Jan 2017 15:25 |
Chris,
I wonder if i could ask a big favour .
Could you possibly look for their service records if any please.
They are John Malley d.o.b. 1892 .died 1916 James Malley d.o.b. 1894 Daniel Malley d.o.b. 1893.died 1915
Parents are James and Elizabeth nee Butler.
For some reason both Daniel and James also have the address 38, East Rose Street as well as 31, Kirk street .
thank you
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31 Jan 2017 13:57 |
(yes, just looking at Abraham Butler on 1901, FMP. Ham Curer, wife Louisa, has a Son John, 1899) 35, Sunnybank Street, Glasgow, Bridgeton.
Perhaps that John Butler on link, Army Number 51754...
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31 Jan 2017 13:54 |
That is the site Chris but sorry should have mentioned the names of my relatives, they were John , Daniel and James Malley, parents were James Malley and Elizabeth nee Butler, Elizabeth Butler being Henry and John's cousin.
I don't think that John Butler is one of mine.
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31 Jan 2017 13:15 |
http://www.glesga.ukpals.com/RollofHonour-2nd-edition.pdf
(is that it above Jean?, 51754 John Butler 343, Dalmarnock Road)
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(on that Electoral, Glasgow. Ancestry. 1915 has an Abraham Butler there, Ham Curer)
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Jean
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31 Jan 2017 11:43 |
Still on the look out for John Wright but so far no success, but whilst looking came across a site for soldiers who died in WW1 called WW1 Roll of Honour for the fallen of Bridgeton, Calton, Dalmarnock, and Mile End.
Makes very poignant reading, it lists the soldiers ages , where died and n.o.k and addresses if known.
I found 3 relatives , all brothers connected to my Butler family who died within months of each other , they were nephews to Henry and John Wright and all resided at 31, Kirk Street , so another branch of my tree to concentrate on.
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29 Jan 2017 11:24 |
Thank you Chris,
Butler was John's mother's maiden name so maybe an aunt .
Thank you rootgatherer , I am well, hope you are too. As you can see still on the trail of my McCuskeys /McCluskey's and their offspring.
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28 Jan 2017 16:46 |
(mention of Butler name in below, on same story)
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29 May 1922 - Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer - Leeds, West
Following upon inquiry the police arrested John O'Hagan (24), unemployed labourer, in the house of a Mrs. Butler, at 31, Kirk Street. It is alleged the dead woman was shot about midnight in Mrs. Butler's house, they were discussing Irish politics.
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28 Jan 2017 16:31 |
Thank you Chris,
makes very interesting reading, it's beginning to look like my John O'Hagan correct age my John being born 1898.
I wonder what the sentence was 'cos he went on to marry if it is the same John.
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28 Jan 2017 15:32 |
(now added rest of newspaper article, didn't have time earlier!)
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Edits (below for CWGC Death, from one that rg posted earlier)
Son of Alexander and Eliza Wright, of 59, Wigton St., Glasgow. Born at Glasgow.
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Jean
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28 Jan 2017 15:07 |
Just looked at 2 deaths in Hillhead, for John going by his d.o.b. and the date of death but again, not him .
ArgyllGran, you may be right about the shooting in Kirk Street involving John O'Hagan as I have just found that Kirk Street was renamed Stevenson Street , the same address as John's marriage cert.
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28 Jan 2017 13:22 |
Of course you right ArgyleGran, thanks for newspaper report .
I don't think the Jeanie and Robert Wright are connected to my Wright's , although i am not certain. There are a couple of Robert Wright marriages on SP, one to Jeanie Cairns and the other to Jeanie Orr in 1905, One in Blythswood and the other in govan.
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