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greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Oct 2017 17:23

??
Nottinghamshire marriages index 1528-1929 Transcription

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Savage
Marriage year 1798
Marriage date 23 Jul 1798
Marriage place Radford
Church St Peter
Denomination Anglican
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name Greensmith
County Nottinghamshire
Country England

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Children - Notts baptisms FMP

William 3.12.1798 St Nicholas
Mary Ann 26.8.1800 St Mary
Charlotte 3.9.1802 St Mary
Thomas 25.11.1805 St Mary
Giles
Ann
Amelia 21.11.1813 St Mary. From freereg - of Poynton Street. Father a Frame Work Knitter
Frances 10.8.1817 St Mary of ditto

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Oct 2017 17:15

Was Giles a brother to Ann?

Nottinghamshire baptisms index 1538-1917 Transcription

First name(s) Giles
Last name Savage
Birth year -
Baptism year 1808
Baptism date 04 Jan 1808
Denomination Anglican
Church St Mary
Baptism place Nottingham
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Savage
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Mother's last name Savage

Nottinghamshire baptisms index 1538-1917 Transcription

First name(s) Ann
Last name Savage
Birth year -
Baptism year 1810
Baptism date 10 Aug 1810
Denomination Anglican
Church St Mary
Place Nottingham
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Savage
Mother's first name(s) Ann
Archive Nottinghamshire Archives
Document type Bishop's Transcripts
Year range 1801-1812

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Oct 2017 17:00

? Other children missing from census

TAYLOR, CHARLOTTE SAVAGE Order
GRO Reference: 1839 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page 584

TAYLOR, FANNY SAVAGE Order
GRO Reference: 1843 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page 605

TAYLOR, GILES SAVAGE Order
GRO Reference: 1854 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 169

Deaths
Name: Age at Death (in years): Order:
TAYLOR, CHARLOTTE 8 Order
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page 442

TAYLOR, GILES 8 Order
GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 115 Order

Age will be 8 months not years for both children

? Co-incidence
A Giles Savage is also buried with John and Ellen - d 25.4.1852, buried 29.4.1852 (original 27th). Aged 45 of Back Lane, a Tailor. He was the first burial in the plot.

Age 45 of Back Lane a Tailor

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Oct 2017 16:48

??
Nottinghamshire marriages index 1528-1929 Transcription

First name(s) George
Last name Taylor
Marriage year 1836
Marriage date 12 Nov 1836
Marriage place Nottingham
Church St Mary
Denomination Anglican
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name Robinson
County Nottinghamshire

BUT ??
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
TAYLOR, AMELIA SAVAGE Order
GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page 657

SO ??
Nottinghamshire marriages index 1528-1929 Transcription

First name(s) James William
Last name Robinson
Sex Male
Denomination Anglican
Residence Nottingham, St Nicholas
Marriage year 1827
Marriage date 07 Aug 1827
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name Savage
Spouse's residence Nottingham, St Nicholas
Church St Nicholas
Place Nottingham
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
By licence or by banns Banns
First witness Thomas Savage
Second witness Charlotte Savage
Document type Bishop's Transcripts
Year range 1814-1831
Page 291

AND - names as per 1851 census

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
TAYLOR, JOHN SAVAGE Order
GRO Reference: 1849 M Quarter in TOWN OF NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page 636

TAYLOR, GEORGE SAVAGE Order
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page 584

TAYLOR, WILLIAM SAVAGE Order
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page 653 Order

TAYLOR, PHEBE SAVAGE Order
GRO Reference: 1841 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page

TAYLOR, ANN SAVAGE Order
GRO Reference: 1837 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 15 Page 389 Order

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Oct 2017 16:33

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
6, Poynton Street, St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Taylor Head Married Male 52 1799 Brewer Laxton, Nottinghamshire, England
Ann Taylor Wife Married Female 41 1810 - Nottinghamshire, England
Ann Taylor Daughter - Female 13 1838 Lace Drawer Nottinghamshire, England
Phoeby Taylor Daughter - Female 9 1842 Lace Drawer Nottinghamshire, England
William Taylor Son - Male 6 1845 Scholar Nottinghamshire, England
George Taylor Son - Male 4 1847 At Home Nottinghamshire, England
John Taylor Son - Male 2 1849 At Home Nottinghamshire, England

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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Pointon Street, St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Gender Age Birth year Birth place
George Taylor Male 40 1801 Nottinghamshire, England
Ann Taylor Female 30 1811 Nottinghamshire, England
Ann Taylor Female 3 1838 Nottinghamshire, England

George is a Publican

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Oct 2017 16:19

???
John is a Cabman

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Poynton Street, St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Ann Taylor Head - Female 58 1813 - Nottinghamshire, England
William Taylor Son - Male 26 1845 - Nottinghamshire, England
John Taylor Son - Male 21 1850 - Nottinghamshire, England
Phoebe Taylor Daughter - Female 28 1843 - Nottinghamshire, England
Amile Taylor Daughter - Female 19 1852 - Nottinghamshire, England

Ann is a Widow
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Same family 1861 - Father George as per marriage posted earlier of John Taylor and Mary Smalley

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
6, Poynton Street, St Marys, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Taylor Head Married Male 66 1795 Brewer Laxton, Nottinghamshire, England
Ann Taylor Wife Married Female 50 1811 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Phoebe Taylor Daughter Unmarried Female 19 1842 Bonnet Front Maker Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
William Taylor Son Unmarried Male 16 1845 Boot & Shoe Maker Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
George Taylor Son - Male 14 1847 Scholar Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
John Taylor Son - Male 12 1849 Scholar Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Amelia Taylor Daughter - Female 10 1851 Scholar Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Oct 2017 16:05

??
Clara Taylor mmn Smalley born 1882 married Joseph Harris 1901

Sarah Ann Harris mmn Taylor born 1909 (Clara had a sister Sarah Annie b 1871)

I did wonder if Clara wasn't actually daughter of John Taylor in that earlier post. Perhaps held up by the 1901 census posted by Choccy at 1332 of Clara Smalley living next to Joseph?

Burials - Nottingham General Cemetery - could be John??

John Taylor aged 28 buried 28 December 1878 - could fit with death below as Basford RD covers Arnold where John died. The ages are a year out but I've seen that before between GRO and Burial

TAYLOR, JOHN 29 Order
GRO Reference: 1878 D Quarter in BASFORD Volume 07B Page 115

Also same grave - Ellen Taylor aged 5 years buried 26 August 1881 which could fit daughter Nellie as below who was Ellen on 1881 census

TAYLOR, NELLIE SMALLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 269

Name: Age at Death (in years): Order:
TAYLOR, ELLEN 5 Order
GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 171 Order

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Oct 2017 15:37

So John (Cabman) who died 25th Dec. 1878 was married to Mary Smalley...

How can Clara Harris with baby Sarah Ann have Maiden name Taylor then?...

Chris :)

(anybody seeing the 'wood for the trees', think I've lost it again, lol)

No, think I'm back on track now!!, grief, time for coffee and a 'wake up'!.


Oh, below posted earlier was other problem!!...

greyghost Report 17 Oct 2017 12:19

??
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
TAYLOR, CLARA SMALLEY
GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 299

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 17 Oct 2017 15:34

Hi
On the 1911 Census it states 3 children born but 1 survived
Which was Violet Harris

I came across Clara Harris Baptised 1904 9 Pine Street ( Clara and Joseph Harris )

Will look for Sarah Ann Harris next time I go to Nottingham Library

I didn't think I would find all this out after receiving the Marriage

It will tell you some where how old John Talylor was when he died
Thankyou
Olive

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Oct 2017 15:32

No mention of family names - just referred to as wife and 4 children

(The pubs - The Ram and the Forest Tavern - mentioned in the article are still there !)

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 17 Oct 2017 15:20

Hi
What does Edits is something not quite right here

I have found the News Paper Artical but I just carnt open it up
I will have to Waite in till I go to the Library

As I am interested in the names of the family

Olive

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Oct 2017 15:17

No names mentioned in article, just wife and four children...

Chris :)

Then who is below?...(Pine Street)

Birth
HARRIS, SARAH ANN (TAYLOR)
GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 421


Deaths Mar 1907 (>99%)
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HARRIS Sarah Ann 0 Nottingham 7b 283


19 March 1907 - Nottingham Journal - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Sarah Ann Harris, of 9, Pine-street, aged eight weeks, who was found dead in bed yesterday morning. Dr. Johnson was of the opinion that death was due to suffocation, and a verdict in accordance with his evidence was returned.


06 September 1909 - Nottingham Evening Post - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire

POLICE PUBLIC.
Clara Harris, a married woman, of 9. Pine-street, was fined for obstructing the police, it being stated that owing to her hanging round the neck of one of the prisoners, it took the police a quarter of an hour to proceed five yards.

(in connection with Thomas Marsh of 78, Salisbury Street and William Oldham of Redoubt Street, colliers, being charged for being drunk and disorderly in Ilkeston Road, assaulting several constables)

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 17 Oct 2017 15:00

Wow
I will go into the Nottingham Library
You say it mentions his wife name and children
What names are given please
Olive

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 17 Oct 2017 13:47

(adds to references posted earlier)

Chris :)

County Nottinghamshire
Place Nottingham
Church name St Mary
Register type Transcript
Marriage date 1 Jun 1871
Groom forename John
Groom surname TAYLOR
Groom age 21
Bride forename Mary
Bride surname SMALLEY
Bride age 23
Groom father forename George
Groom father surname TAYLOR
Bride father forename William
Bride father surname SMALLEY
Register note Groom's father deceased.


Baptism
County Nottinghamshire
Place Nottingham
Church name St Thomas
Register type Unspecified
Baptism date 06 Jul 1879
Person forename Mary
Person sex F
Person abode Mill St
Father forename John
Father surname TAYLOR
Father occupation Cabman
Mother forename Mary

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


Birth
TAYLOR, MARY (SMALLEY)
GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 257


(better get back to newspapers in Library Olive, articles for below lol)

03 January 1879 - Nottinghamshire Guardian - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire

FATAL ACCIDENT TO A CABMAN.
On Friday, an inquest was held st the Black Lion Inn, Arnold, by Mr. D. W. Heath, the district Coroner, touching the death of John Taylor, who died on the 25th inst...

(mention of wife and four children)


Edits (is something not right here?)

Choccy

Choccy Report 17 Oct 2017 13:32

??

living next door to Joseph Harris in 1901 -


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

12, Pine Street, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England


William Walker Head Married Male 31 1870 Coal Miner Tramway Man Under Ground Leicestershire, England

Mary Walker Wife Married Female 32 1869 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Doris Walker Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Ada Walker Daughter Single Female 4 1897 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Hilda Walker Daughter Single Female 3 1898 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Charity Walker Daughter - Female 0 1901 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

>>>>Clara Smalley Boarder Single Female 21 1880 Lace Velvet Spotter Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England




1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

14, Pine Street, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England


Joseph Harris Head Married Male 42 1859 Gas Stoker Helpringham, Lincolnshire, England

Sarah Harris Wife Married Female 45 1856 - Cowbit, Lincolnshire, England

>>>>>>Joseph Harris Son Single Male 19 1882 Coal Miner Dayman (Under Ground) Grantham, Lincolnshire, England

Miles Harris Son Single Male 15 1886 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Harry Knowles Boarder Married Male 24 1877 Bricklayer's Labourer Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Elizabeth Knowles Boarder Married Female 21 1880 - Grantham, Lincolnshire, England

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 17 Oct 2017 13:04

Hi Grey Ghost
Joseph Harris aged 21 Coal Miner 14 Pine Street Radford father Joseph Harris Gas Stoker
Clara Taylor aged 21 Spinster 14 Pine Street Radford father John Taylor Cab Driver Deceaced
Marriage Certifacate The Register Office Nottingham 4 th May 1901
In Present of us W Husband and E Sparks

1911 Census
Joseph Harris head age 29 living 18 ledger Yard Radford
Clara Harris Wife age 29 living 18 Ledger Yard Radford

Violet Harris daughter age 9

Violet Harris Married Frederick R Asher 1921 Nottingham
They are on the 1939 Register

As for John Taylor father have no idea as yet
From Olive

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Oct 2017 13:03

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
36, Clifford Street, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Taylor Head Widow Female 50 1851 Charwoman Washing Flintham, Nottinghamshire, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Oct 2017 12:36

If correct, then this would mean Clara was not John's daughter if born Q4 1882 (or wrong family!!)

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
27, Bow Street, Nottingham St Mary, Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Mary Taylor Head Widow Female 30 1851 Maker Up Of Hosiery Flintham, Newark, Notts
John Taylor Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Ellen Taylor Daughter Single Female 5 1876 Scholar Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
George Taylor Son Single Male 3 1878 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Mary Taylor Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Oct 2017 12:29

Other Taylor/Smalley births

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
TAYLOR, JOHN SMALLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1873 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 241

TAYLOR, SARAH ANNIE SMALLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1871 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 259 Order

TAYLOR, NELLIE SMALLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 269

TAYLOR, MARY SMALLEY Order
GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 257 Order

greyghost

greyghost Report 17 Oct 2017 12:19

??
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
TAYLOR, CLARA SMALLEY
GRO Reference: 1882 D Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 299

TAYLOR, GEORGE SMALL *****
GRO Reference: 1877 M Quarter in NOTTINGHAM Volume 07B Page 288
**** ? a mistake for Smalley
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England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

First name(s) JOHN
Last name TAYLOR
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1871
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ JOHN TAYLOR married one of these people
Mary Ann Noddall, Mary Smalley

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Nottinghamshire marriages index 1528-1929 Transcription

First name(s) John
Last name Taylor
Marriage year 1871
Marriage date 01 Jun 1871
Marriage place Nottingham
Church St Mary
Denomination Anglican
Spouse's first name(s) Mary
Spouse's last name Smalley
County Nottinghamshire
Country England