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Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Nov 2017 22:20

They are transcribed correctly on Findmypast

Carol

Carol Report 17 Nov 2017 22:14

In the 1851 census there names are misconscripted ann and Phoebe last name is down as Shane ,sorry for that,

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Nov 2017 22:09

Sorry Carol don't understand?

Carol

Carol Report 17 Nov 2017 22:08

No that one not her or william In the 1951 census as william died .by 1842

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Nov 2017 22:01

If she was born earlier there is this one??

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Marsh Gate Rowleys Yard, Doncaster, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Ann Shaw Female 40 1801 Yorkshire, England
Harriet Shaw Female 15 1826 Yorkshire, England
Mary Shaw Female 15 1826 Yorkshire, England
Andrew Shaw Male 11 1830 Yorkshire, England
Mary Egley Female 15 1826 Yorkshire, England

EDIT forget this one , still there in 1851

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census T
Sloop Yard, Marsh Gate, Doncaster, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

William Shaw Head Married Male 57 1794 Sailor Yorkshire, England
Anne Shaw Wife Married Female 54 1797 - Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
Andrew Shaw Son Unmarried Male 21 1830 Sailor & Boat Hauler Doncaster, Yorkshire, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Nov 2017 21:58

Carol, you say Ann was born 1811, but on the 1871 and her burial she was born 1799 or thereabouts. You really do need to buy the marriage cert.

Carol

Carol Report 17 Nov 2017 21:53

Nyx I seem to think my mum said it was William

Carol

Carol Report 17 Nov 2017 21:51

No it is not her ann was born in Brodsworths Doncaster 1811

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Nov 2017 21:47

The marriage cert for Phoebe to George Gibbs may give father's name if known.

Going back to Chris Ho's post re Ann's burial

"Relationship widow of
Male relative forename William
Relative surname SHAW "

?? Not seeing William

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Nov 2017 21:46

This is the Freeman/Shaw family, bearing in mind the age discrepancies on the 1841 ( rounding up or down) this doesn't 'look' like Phoebe is the same person as Ann?

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Queen Street, Sheepshead, Loughborough, Leicestershire, England

Charles Freeman Male 45 1796 Leicestershire, England
Martha Freeman Female 45 1796 Leicestershire, England
John Freeman Male 25 1816 Leicestershire, England
Martha Freeman Female 15 1826 Leicestershire, England
Hanah Freeman Female 15 1826 Leicestershire, England
Samuel Cooke Male 75 1766 Leicestershire, England
Robert Shaw Male 25 1816 Leicestershire, England
Phoebe Shaw Female 20 1821 Leicestershire, England
Elizabeth Shaw Female 0 1841 Leicestershire, England

Carol

Carol Report 17 Nov 2017 21:42

Could phoebes mother also be called phoebe and they called her Ann.

Carol

Carol Report 17 Nov 2017 21:40

Phoebe was born in Leicestershire yes her mother ann Doncaster

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Nov 2017 21:38

The children here are also Shaw mmn Freeman

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Buckhorn Square, Loughborough, Leicestershire, England

Robert Shaw Head Married Male 39 1812 Angola Frame Work Knitter Woodhouse, Leicestershire, England Transcription
Phoebe Shaw Wife Married Female 34 1817 Seamstress Of Angola Hosierey Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England
Martha Shaw Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England
Herbert Shaw Son - Male 3 1848 - Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England
Harriot Shaw Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Nov 2017 21:35

So which 1851 census is the right one

You said she was born Leicestershire

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Nov 2017 21:32

If that is the right Phoebe?

There are other Shaw/Freeman births but those children are not with mother Ann?

edit it does look as if other siblings died?

SHAW, ROBERT FREEMAN Order
GRO Reference: 1847 M Quarter in LOUGHBOROUGH UNION Volume 15 Page 149 Sadly died same year

Carol

Carol Report 17 Nov 2017 21:31

That's just made me cry I have been trying to find this for Ages.Thank you so much this meens so much to my family.xx

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Nov 2017 21:26

Ties with 1851 when she is with Freeman grandparent so

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Queen Street, Sheepshed, Loughborough, Leicestershire, England

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Gender Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Charles Freeman Head Married Male 59 1792 F W K Cotton Hosiery Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England Transcription
Martha Freeman Wife Married Female 58 1793 - Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England Transcription
Martha Bennett Daughter Widow Female 27 1824 F W K Cotton Hosiery Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England Transcription
John Bennett Grand Son - Male 5 1846 - Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England Transcription
Francis Harris Lodger Unmarried Male 47 1804 L W K Worsted Hosiery Shilton, Leicestershire, England Transcription
Thomas Dutton Lodger Unmarried Male 21 1830 L W K Worsted Hosiery Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England Transcription
William Smith Lodger Unmarried Male 40 1811 F W K Cotton Hosiery Cheshire, England Transcription
Phoebe Shaw Grand Daughter - Female 8 1843 - Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England Transcription
Mary Greensmith Visitor Unmarried Female 18 1833 L W K Cotton Hosiery Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England Transcription
Charles Freeman Bennett Grand Son - Male 0 1851 - Sheepshed, Leicestershire, England Transcription

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Nov 2017 21:26

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Upper Waterside, Dartford, Kent, England

Ann Shaw Head Widow Female 39 1812 Employ In Garden Doncaster, Yorkshire, England Transcription
Phoebe Shaw Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar Dartford, Kent, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Nov 2017 21:24


1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
12, Fulwich Lane, Dartford, Kent, England

George Gibbs Head Married Male 21 1840 Labourer In Tan Yard Tunbridge Wells, Kent, England
Phoebe Gibbs Wife Married Female 19 1842 - Market Harborough, Leicestershire, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 17 Nov 2017 21:22

Possibly
SHAW, PHOEBE FREEMAN Order
GRO Reference: 1842 J Quarter in LOUGHBOROUGH UNION Volume 15 Page 150