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Hi, I know lots about my mum's side she tragically died a year to the day that my father committed suicide I have been lucky enough to have been given the privilege of seeing Stevens and Orourke trees for which I am truly grateful. x <3

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Dunns Cottage, 4, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England

Charles F Burford Head Married Male 27 1854 Southall, Middlesex, England Sawyer Mill Labourer Transcription
Elizabeth Burford Wife Married Female 30 1851 Middlesex, England -
Charles Burford Son Single Male 5 1876 Hornsey, Middlesex, England Scholar
Frederick Burford Son Single Male 3 1878 Hackney, Middlesex, England Scholar
Herbert W Burford Son Single Male 0 1881 Hackney, Middlesex, England -

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BURFORD, FREDERICK JAMES MMN WITHERS Order
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 472

Not entirely sure therefore whether there might be a mistake on the middle name of father? as compared to details on Frederick's marriage as posted by Erika

Marriages Dec 1874 (>99%)
BURFORD Charles Frederick Hackney 1b 728
Withers Elizabeth Hackney 1b 728

Yes, that is my father, birth and death are correct, and I always thought he was born in Bridge so I am guessing there was a mistake somewhere along the line and that Bridge would be correct.
Thank you so much, this is so amazing x

Name: Terry John Burford
Death Age: 40
Birth Date: 5 Sep 1946
Registration Date: Jul 1987
Registration district: Canterbury
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 16
Page: 171

Births Sep 1946
Burford Terry J Hill Bridge 5b 109
The district Bridge is in the county of Kent; information about it can be found here

The info about the inferred county on Ancestry is clearly wrong - not sure where they get it from, but I have submitted an amendment

From Ancestry

Name: Frederick James Burford
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 21
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1878
Marriage Date: 12 Mar 1899
Marriage Place: St Andrew, Hoxton, Hackney, England
Father: Charles Robert Burford
Spouse: Mary Johns
Register Type: Parish Register


Name: Mary Johns
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1879
Marriage Date: 12 Mar 1899
Marriage Place: St Andrew, Hoxton, Hackney, England
Father: Henry Johns

Sadly it looks likely that Ivy M Burford died 2012, that is the last date she appears on erolls, and there is a probate record for a matching name 2012 on Find a Will
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

Oh my gosh you are fantastic how do you do this, so very grateful, how do I find out if anyone has a tree here? it would be wonderful to find some relatives, and find out about my fathers side of the family
Thanks so much x

Hi Shelley...the Birth in Bridge Kent..is clearly right..as is the ref number given by Nyx...but somewhere along the line there is a mistake..since the BMD printout gives the "inferred" count as devon Cornwall and Scylly..and i bet that the Birth certificate says the same...........which i admit is clearly a mistake......
..and don't worry about being a novice..we all were once!..and got to be knowledgeable through help from others.
I wonder if you can get back a little bit further..because one generation might get you back to the 1911 Census..then we can really go to town..I know that FindMyPast has the 1939 Census but that is severely limited and will not divulge any info mentionaing possibly living people.........I'm going to chase up the O'Rourkes. the Stevens and the Hill....wish me luck!!
Derek.

Births Mar 1917 (>99%)
Burford Albert E Johns Holborn 1b 987

Only two Burford/Johns marriages on freebmd - assuming the mother hadn't been married before - and only one fits time-wise.


Marriages Mar 1899 (>99%)
Burford Frederick James Shoreditch 1c 133
Johns Mary Shoreditch 1c 133

Possible birth for Albert?

Births Mar 1917 (>99%)

Burford Albert E Johns Holborn 1b 987

and death


First name(s) ALBERT EDWARD
Last name BURFORD
Gender Male
Birth day 23
Birth month 3
Birth year 1917
Age -
Death quarter 4
Death year 1972
District Bridge
County Kent
Volume 5F
Page 172
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England

The marriage cert for your father and mother should confirm Albert E Burford as his father.

They are actually in the same household in 1939 before their marriage

Hill Household (9 People)
Hillside West Cliff Drive , Herne Bay U.D., Kent, England


Ivy M Borford (Hill) 29 Jan 1917 Female Garment Machinist Single 360 3 <<<<<
Henry S Hill 22 Jun 1893 Male House Decorator Employed Married 360 1
May L Hill 04 Aug 1893 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 360 2
William A Clark 03 Feb 1907 Male Cabinet Maker Married 360 5
Amelia E Clark 05 Jun 1910 Female Hoffman Presser Married 360 6
Edith Pack 26 Aug 1897 Female Mantle Machinist Married 360 7
Arthur D Pack 18 Jun 1931 Male At School Single 360 8
Albert E Burford 22 Mar 1917 Male Paint Sprayer Single 360 4 <<<<<

Yesmy Fathers Mother was Ivy Hill I have a feeling I have heard the name Albert before thinking back to my childhood, I know my dad's siblings are Jean and Brian, I have tried asking them to help but they don't seem to want to give me any information regarding my father,I think him committing suicide broke the family apart.
Thanks, I really do appreciate your help as I don't know how to research properly yet I am very new to this .

On FMP the marriage is def in Bridge Kent so looks likely the right birth 1946 also Bridge

That looks likely Derek given Shelly's dob etc

Shelly, the Terry born Kent was to these parents probably and had siblings, are you just thinking this might be right based on location?
Marriages Dec 1939 (>99%)

Burford Albert E Hill Blean 2a 5082
Hill Ivy M Burford Blean 2a 5082

Yes that's correct Janice Orourke was my mother, I thought my father Terry Burford was born in Bridge Kent though Derek.

I wonder if you're right? welcome to the Boards by the way.........Let me hit you with this, and see how much you know already.

Terry John Burford born 05.09.1949 in Devon..married Phyllis Janice Burford in 1969...on the marriage record her maiden name was O'Rourke and her mother's maiden name was Stevens..............how we doing???
EDIT..I see that Bridge is in fact in Kent..near Canterbury..yet the marriage entry in BMD's definitely gives "Bridge.Devon Cornwall Scilly"..would be interesting to see what the actual marriage cert, shows.....

Derek

Hi Shelley

this is the birth reg

Births Sep 1946 (>99%)
Burford Terry J Hill Bridge 5b 109

You can order the birth cert from the GRO online, it should give you his parents' names. https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

I have just discovered his Mothers Maiden name was Ivy Hill I know her husband must have been Burford but Christian name I do not know