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William George Smith Blundeston Norfolk

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greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Feb 2018 17:50

Next door but one to George and Naomi

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Buncers Hill, Lound, Mutford, Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
More Cumby Head Married Male 70 1781 Ag Lab Norton, Norfolk, England
Elizabeth Cumby Wife Married Female 62 1789 - Lound, Suffolk, England
Mary Cumby Daughter Unmarried Female 23 1828 - Lound, Suffolk, England
Elizah Cumby Daughter Unmarried Female 22 1829 - Lound, Suffolk, England
Henry Cumby Son Unmarried Male 17 1834 Ag Lab Lound, Suffolk, England
Henry Cumby Grand Son - Male 2 1849 - Lound, Suffolk, England
Georgeannah Cumby Grand Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Lound, Suffolk, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Feb 2018 17:35

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Charles Cumby
christening: 14 September 1814 LOUND, SUFFOLK, ENGLAND
father: Moore Cumby
mother: Elizabeth

Martha Cumby
birth: LOUND, SUFFOLK, ENG
christening: 20 April 1817 Suffolk, England
father: Moore Cumby
mother: Elizabeth


Amelia Cumby
christening: 21 July 1822 LOUND, SUFFOLK, ENGLAND
father: Moore Cumby
mother: Elizabeth

Mary Ann Cumby
birth: LOUND
christening: 24 May 1829 SUFFOLK, ENGLAND
father: Morse Cumby
mother: Elizabeth

Mary Cumby
birth: LOUND
christening: 8 February 1829 SUFFOLK, ENGLAND
father: Morse Cumby
mother: Elizabeth

Eliza Cumby
christening: 1831 LOUND, BTS, SUFFOLK, ENGLAND
residence: Lound, Suffolk, England
father: Moore Cumby
mother: Elizabeth

Henry Moore Cumby
christening: 23 March 1834 LOUND, SUFFOLK, ENGLAND
father: Moore Cumby
mother: Elizabeth



greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Feb 2018 17:05

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1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Lound Bunker Hill, Lound, Mutford & Lothingland, Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
Moab Cumby Male 50 1791 Suffolk, England
Elizabeth Cumby Female 50 1791 Suffolk, England
Amelia Cumby Female 19 1822 Suffolk, England
Neoma Cumby Female 15 1826 Suffolk, England
Maria Cumby Female 12 1829 Suffolk, England
Eliza Cumby Female 10 1831 Suffolk, England
Henry Cumby Male 7 1834 Suffolk, England

Moab looks more like More on original

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 27 Feb 2018 17:02

Below has a Witness Smith (but she could perhaps be related to either!)

Chris :)

County Suffolk
Place Gunton
Church name St Peter
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 42
Marriage date 25 Dec 1897
Groom forename William George
Groom surname SMITH
Groom age 26
Groom condition bachelor
Groom parish Gunton
Groom occupation Fisherman
Bride forename Annie Emma
Bride surname SMITH
Bride age 23
Bride condition spinster
Bride parish Gunton
Groom father forename Joseph
Groom father surname SMITH
Groom father occupation Fisherman
Bride father forename Robert
Bride father surname SMITH
Bride father occupation Labourer
Witness Robert WIGG
Witness Emily SMITH

https://www.freereg.org.uk/

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Feb 2018 17:01

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Buncers Hill, Lound, Mutford, Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Smith Head Married Male 24 1827 Ag Lab Lound, Suffolk, England
Neoma Smith Wife Married Female 24 1827 - Lound, Suffolk, England
Elizabeth Smith Daughter - Female 4 1847 - Lound, Suffolk, England
Harriet Smith Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Lound, Suffolk, England

Elizabeth born before marriage. so perhaps this birth -

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
SMITH, ELIZABETH - Order
GRO Reference: 1846 M Quarter in MUTFORD AND LOTHINGLAND Volume 13 Page 469

However, Family search has - (GRO gives a mmn of Jacobs for this one)

Other information in the record of Elizabeth Martha Cumby
from England Births and Christenings
Name Elizabeth Martha Cumby
Residence Place $, Suffolk, England
Gender Female
Christening Date 1846
Christening Date (Original) 06 DEC 1846
Christening Place SUFFOLK COUNTY BTS, SUFFOLK, ENGLAND
Mother's Name Naomi Cumby
Citing this Record
"England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Feb 2018 16:58

Harriet's birth (and brother George) showing mmn

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:

SMITH, HARRIETT CUMBY Order
GRO Reference: 1850 D Quarter in MUTFORD AND LOTHINGLAND Volume 13 Page 479 Order

SMITH, GEORGE CUMBY Order
GRO Reference: 1856 D Quarter in MUTFORD AND LOTHINGLAND Volume 04A Page 620

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Marriage of George and Naomi

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1850 (>99%)
Almond Eliza Mitford & 13 741
Almond Eliza Mutford 13 741
Bland Arthur Mitford & 13 741
Bland Arthur Mutford &c 13 741
Church Joseph Only Curtis Mutford &c 13 741
Cumbi Naomi Mutford 13 741 <<<<<<<<<<<
Cumby Naomi Mutford 13 741 <<<<<<<<<<
Gibbs Maria Mutford 13 741
Hurrell Eleanor Mutford &c 13 741
Manthorpe Jonathan Mutford &c 13 741
Smith George Mutford &c 13 741 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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Family search has this record for 1849 !!

mentioned in the record of George Smith and Naomi Cumby
Name George Smith
Spouse's Name Naomi Cumby
Event Date 01 Apr 1849
Event Place Lound, Suffolk,

David

David Report 27 Feb 2018 14:44

Thanks for all your help will look at all your reply's. I have lots of detail about William after his marriage, he died 12 DEC 1931 • At Sea on board the trawler "Zodiac" Because William George Smith was my grandfather on my mothers side I hoped to find his ancestors

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Feb 2018 11:43

harriets father
George
Last name Smith
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1825
Baptism date 30 Jan 1825
Place Lound
County Suffolk
Country England
Father's first name(s) Charles
Father's last name Smith
Mother's first name(s) Frances
Mother's last name -


First name(s) George
Last name Smith
Name note -
Marriage year 1849
Marriage date 01 Apr 1849
Marriage place Lound
Spouse's first name(s) Naomi
Spouse's last name Cumby
Residence Lound, Suffolk, England
County Suffolk
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Marriages
Collections from England, Great Britain

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Feb 2018 11:39

????
Harriet
Last name Hales
Age 42
Birth year 1851
Death year 1893
Burial year 1893
Burial date 12 Jul 1893
Church St Mary
Denomination Anglican
Place Blundeston
County Suffolk
Country England

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Feb 2018 11:30

herberts baptism
Name: Herbert Hales
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 1 Aug 1880
Baptism Place: Hopton (near Lowestoft), Suffolk, England
Father: William George Hales - labourer
Mother: Harriet Hales
FHL Film Number: 1471185

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Feb 2018 11:27

Wondering about this one for William in 1901.

The birth town is where the family were living in 1881 (census). You may well have him placed in 1901, (you say you want to find him pre marriage) but we don't know where, but if this is him, it gives an idea of his occupation to help find him in 1891.

It may indicate he was at sea in 1891 though!

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

First name(s) William
Last name Smith
Relationship Mbr Of Crew
Marital status Married
Sex Male
Age 31
Birth year 1870
Birth town Hopton
Birth town as transcribed HOPTON
Birth place England
Birth place other as transcribed -
Birth county Suffolk
Birth county as transcribed SUFFOLK
Occupation Ch Enginners
House name -
House number -
Street -
Town -
Parish Paul
City -
Country England
County Cornwall
Vessel name Succes
Municipal ward Newlyn
Registration district Penzance
Other household member first name(s) -
Other household member last name -
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 2252
Folio 146

The original shows a crew of 9. 7 from Suffolk, 1 Norfolk and 1 Yorkshire.

They are drift net fishermen

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Feb 2018 11:17

William and Harriet in 1891, but no William Smith

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Blundeston, Mutford, Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
William Hales Head Married Male 38 1853 Suffolk, England Farm Labourer
Harriet Hales Wife Married Female 41 1850 Suffolk, England -
Herbert Hales Son - Male 10 1881 Suffolk, England -
Ellen Hales Daughter - Female 6 1885 Suffolk, England -

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Feb 2018 11:10

Marriage of William Hales to Harriet

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1873 (>99%)
HALES William Mutford 4a 1128
SMITH Harriet Mutford 4a 1128

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Feb 2018 11:08

harriett in 1861
Lound, Mutford, Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Smith Head Married Male 37 1824 Labourer Agricultural Lound, Suffolk, England
Transcription
Naomi Smith Wife Married Female 35 1826 - Lound, Suffolk, England
Transcription
Harriett Smith Daughter - Female 11 1850 - Lound, Suffolk, England
Transcription
William Smith Son - Male 9 1852 - Lound, Suffolk, England
Transcription
Martha Smith Daughter - Female 7 1854 - Lound, Suffolk, England
Transcription
George Smith Son - Male 5 1856 - Lound, Suffolk, England
Transcription
Georgiana Smith Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Lound, Suffolk, England

Dea

Dea Report 27 Feb 2018 11:04

Herbert Hales born c1880 had mothers maiden name as 'Smith' so again this implies that Harriet was single when she had William:

HALES, HERBERT SMITH Order
GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in MUTFORD AND LOTHINGLAND Volume 04A Page 830

Dea x

Maddie

Maddie Report 27 Feb 2018 11:01

is this william in 1881
Name: William Smith
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: William George Hales
Mother: Harriet Hales
Gender: Male
Where born: Blundeston, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Hopton
County/Island: Suffolk
Country: England
Street address: Warren Road Fullers Cottage
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Mutford
Sub registration district: Gorleston
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1908
Folio: 77
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
William George Hales 27
Harriet Hales 29
William Smith 9
Herbert Hales

WILLIAM
Last name HALES
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1873
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ WILLIAM HALES married
Harriet Smith
District Mutford
District number -
County Suffolk
Country England
Volume 4A
Volume as transcribed 4A
Page number 1128

greyghost

greyghost Report 27 Feb 2018 11:00

Welcome to the boards David

His birth registration - for our info.

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
SMITH, WILLIAM GEORGE - Order
GRO Reference: 1871 J Quarter in MUTFORD AND LOTHINGLAND Volume 04A Page 734

The district Mutford spans the boundaries of the counties of Suffolk and Norfolk; The RD covers Blundeston

The omission of a Mothers maiden name from this index, usually indicates that no Father was named at the time of registration.

Later at marriage he may have "named" a Father to make things look better. Sometimes it can be a Grandfather's name who might have been close/an older brother/ the man his Mother married and that he knew as Father etc

Dea

Dea Report 27 Feb 2018 10:59

Looks like William's mother married a 'Mr. Hales' :


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Fullers Cottage, Warren Road, Hopton, Mutford, Suffolk, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
William George Hales Head Married Male 27 1854 Oulton, Suffolk, England Farm Lab
Transcription
Harriet Hales Wife Married Female 29 1852 Lound, Suffolk, England Farm Lab Wife
Transcription
William Smith Son Single Male 9 1872 Blundeston, Suffolk, England Scholar
Transcription
Herbert Hales Son Single Male 0 1881 Hopton, Suffolk, England -

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David

David Report 27 Feb 2018 10:33

I have been looking for any trace of William Smith before he was married in Gunton Church Lowestoft 25Dec 1897 to Anne Emma Smith on the wedding record his Father is Joseph Smith a fisherman . Birth 14 June 1871 Blundeston Norfolk mothers name Harrert Smith no name for the father ?


Anne Sarah Smith birth 14 July 1874 Corton Suffolk mother Sarah smith father Robert Smith
Any help with Williams father Joseph will be great
David