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Hello,

I keep coming back to this branch of my tree because its driving me crazy.
Parents
Walter Watley 1851-
Alice Hoare 1851-

Children
George 1870-
Eliza 1872-
Sarah 1875-
Alice 1878- My direct relative
William 1881-
Bessie 1882-
Polly 1887-

I've found them it the 1881 Kingston, Somerset and 1891 Yeovilton, Somerset census but after that its like they vanish.

I've found Alice on all the census its just the rest of her family that i cant find.
I thought maybe they had tragically all died or emigrated but I recently found Walter Watley on his Granddaughters (Alice's daughter Maud) school registration form in November 1909.

I know the name is a bit of a pain as Ive found it spelt all kinds of ways.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thank you

Have you looked for marriages for the other girls

Different spelling of the surname

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
WATTLEY, POLLY HOARE
GRO Reference: 1887 S Quarter in YEOVIL Volume 05C Page 433 Order

Same spelling for Bessie

WATTLEY, BESSIE HOARE
GRO Reference: 1884 D Quarter in YEOVIL Volume 05C Page 451

Wrong age but looks the right one

1901 census
Bessie Watley
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: West Camel, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Lee
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Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Lewisham
Sub-registration district: Lee
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 547
Folio: 107
Page Number: 39
Household schedule number: 141
Household Members:
Name Age
Name Age
Annette C Tucker 72
Edward N Parsons 53
Annie G Blind 50
Charles H Tuckwell 55
Mary A Tuckwell 52
Bessie Watley 19
Emily Stoksbury 40
Laura Check 31
Annie Sutherland 42

Yes Ive found them as Watley,Whatley, Whittley, Wattley and a few others.

I did look for marriages but I didnt seem to find anything. The most likely thing I found was Bessie as a servant in London on the 1901 census.

:-) beat me to it.

VIEW Somerset, England, School Registers, 1860-1914
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Name: Bessie Watley
Birth Date: Sep 1886
Admission Date: 8 Apr 1895
Residence Place: Camel Hill
School: Queen Camel School
Year Range: 1870-1902
Description: Queen Camel School Admission Register
Reference Number: C/E/4/156/3
Also a Mary Watley aged 6

Bit too young that bessie and I dont have any marys in that family....yet.

What did it say for Father of Alice, 1902 Marriage Cert.?...

https://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1251224

Chris :)

Baptism
County Somerset
Place West Camel
Church name All Saints
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 633
Baptism date 19 Jun 1887
Person forename Polly
Person abode West Camel
Father forename Walter
Father surname WATLEY
Father occupation Shepherd
Mother forename Alice


Baptism
County Somerset
Place West Camel
Church name All Saints
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 620
Baptism date 02 Nov 1884
Person forename Bessie
Person abode West Camel
Father forename Walter
Father surname WATLEY
Father occupation Shepherd

https://www.freereg.org.uk/


MarieCeleste Report 4 Dec 2010 17:59

1881

WATTLEY, Walter Head Married M 37 1844 Farm Shepherd Youren Dorset
WATTLEY, Alice Wife Married F 30 1851 Exmouth Devon
WATTLEY, George Son Single M 10 1871 Uplyme Devon
WATTLEY, Eliza Daughter Single F 8 1873 Lyme Devon
WATTLEY, Sarah Daughter Single F 5 1876 Uplyme Devon
WATTLEY, Alice Daughter Single F 3 1878 Whitestaunton Somerset
WATTLEY, William Son Single M 0 1881 Kingstone Somerset
WATTLEY, John Brother Single M 21 1860 Agricultural Labr Houseford Devon

Registration District: Chard Sub District: Ilminster
Civil Parish: Kingstone

Address: Ludney, Kingstone County: Somersetshire


and 1891:

WATLEY, Walter Head Married M 40 1851 Shepherd Everton Devonshire
WATLEY, Alice Wife Married F 39 1852 Axminster Devonshire
WATLEY, George Son Single M 21 1870 Agricultural Labourer Uplyme Devonshire
WATLEY, Sarah Daughter Single F 16 1875 General Servant Domestic Uplyme Devonshire
WATLEY, Alice Daughter F 13 1878 Scholar Whitestaunton Somersetshire
WATLEY, William Son M 10 1881 Scholar Kingsdon Somersetshire
WATLEY, Bessie Daughter F 6 1885 Scholar West Camel Somersetshire
WATLEY, Polly Daughter F 4 1887 Scholar West Camel Somersetshire
WATLEY, John Nephew Single M 25 1866 Agricultural Labourer Ansford Somersetshire

Registration District: Yeovil Sub District: Ilchester
Enumeration District: 2 Ecclesiastical Parish: Yeovilton

Civil Parish: Yeovilton
Address: Cottage, Speckington, Yeovilton, Speckington
County: Somersetshire


(possibly Nephew above)

County Somerset
Place West Camel
Church name All Saints
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 119
Marriage date 12 Jul 1897
Groom forename John
Groom surname WHATLEY
Groom age 32
Groom condition bachelor
Groom abode West Camel
Groom occupation Shepherd
Bride forename Mary Jane
Bride surname CLARKE
Bride age 23
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode West Camel
Bride father forename William George
Bride father surname CLARKE
Bride father occupation Labourer
Witness William George CLARKE
Witness Emma Jane CLARKE
Register note Groom's father noted as 'not known', Groom & 1st Witness each signed by mark


(presume below for Walter)

Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
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Hoare Alice Axminster 5b 21
Wadley Walter Axminster 5b 21


Devon Social & Institutional records Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) Walter
Last name Wadley
Year 1871
Date 20 Sep 1871
Place Axminster
groom name WALTER WADLEY condition BATCHELOR occupation LABOURER age 25 address AXMOUTH residence length 9 YEARS bride name ALICE HOARE condition SPINSTER age 18 address UPLYME residence length A YEAR church REGISTER OFFICE, AXMINSTER notice date 20/09/1871
Dataset Axminster Marriage Notice Book 1866-1876



22 October 1869 - Exeter and Plymouth Gazette - Exeter, Devon, England

ASSAULT WITH INTENT AT AXMOUTH. Walter Wadley, 21, labourer, was indicted for having, in the month of August last, assaulted Susan Cook, with intent, at Axmouth.
(found Guilty, sentenced to twelve months imprisonment, with hard labour)

Hi Chris

Yes it was Walter Watley, Shephard and not deceased so should be on the 1901 census some where and still around in 1909 too.

WATLEY, WILLIAM HOARE
GRO Reference: 1881 M Quarter in CHARD Volume 05C Page 415

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
Hoare Alice Axminster 5b 21
Wadley Walter Axminster 5b 21

Andy

Marriages Sep 1897
GOSLING Anna Axminster 5b 16
Watley George Axminster 5b 16

1901 census
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Name: George Watley
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Anna Watley
Birth Place: Axmouth, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Seaton
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Ecclesiastical parish: Beer and Seaton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: cattle man on farm
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
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Registration district: Axminster
Sub-registration district: Colyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2020
Folio: 21
Page Number: 34
Household schedule number: 226
Household Members:
Name Age
George Watley 30
Anna Watley 26
Ethel N G Watley 5
Charles W J Watley 2

1911 census

Name: George Whatley
Age in 1911: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Axmouth, Devon
Civil Parish: Seaton
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County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address: 11 Manor Cottages, Seaton, Devon
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Haulier
Registration district: Axminster
Registration District Number: 268
Sub-registration district: Colyton
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 136
Piece: 12523
Household Members:
Name Age
George Whatley 42
Anna Whatley 36
Ethel Norah Whatley 15
William Charles John Whatley 13
Winifred Beatrice May Whatley 5
Edward George Josiah Whatley 10/12
Married 16 years 4 children born all living


George Whatley
Death Age: 80
Birth Date: abt 1869
Registration Date: Sep 1949
Registration district: Honiton
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a
Page: 396

Anna Whatley
Death Age: 75
Birth Date: abt 1876
Registration Date: Mar 1951
Registration district: Honiton
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 7a
Page: 690

fantastic Shirley! Thanks

(another below)

Chris :)

Birth
WHATLEY, WALTER CHARLES (HOARE)
GRO Reference: 1893 J Quarter in YEOVIL Volume 05C Page 429


Baptism
County Somerset
Place Yeovilton
Church name St Bartholomew
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 658
Baptism date 18 Jun 1893
Person forename Walter Charles
Person sex M
Person abode Speckington
Father forename Walter
Father surname WHATLEY
Father occupation Labourer
Mother forename Alice


Deaths Dec 1975 (>99%)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
WHATLEY WALTER CHARLES 7MY1893 YEOVIL 23 1580


1939 Register (Find My Past)

Cutts Close Farm , Wincanton R.D., Somerset
James W (Walter) (Walter Charles on image) Whatley 07 May 1893 Male Agricultural Labourer Single
Charles A Woolfry 09 Nov 1879 Male Dairy Farmer Married 50 1
Blanche Woolfry 31 Jul 1887 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married

Walter jnr in 1901?


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription


First name(s) Walter
Last name Watley
Relationship Inmate
Marital status -
Sex Male
Age 6
Birth year 1895
Birth town Queen Camel
Birth town as transcribed QUEEN CAMEL
Birth place England
Birth place other as transcribed -
Birth county Somerset
Birth county as transcribed SOMERSETSHIRE
Occupation Scholar
House name Wincanton Union Workhouse

I found last night that Walter Snrs older sister Keziah 1836-1920 has four illegitimate sons one called John so that could be the nephew. It’s quite sad actually because Keziah was living with her parents and children but then in the 81,91,01,11 censuses she’s in the work house.

http://somerset-cat.swheritage.org.uk/records/D/G/wn

(above has Wincanton Admission/Discharge, could be useful)

Chris :)

(Woolfry family at that Farm 1911, so perhaps they 'looked after' Walter!)


06 July 1894 - Western Chronicle - Yeovil, Somerset, England

On Sunday about noon a fire was discovered to have broken out in a cottage occupied by a shepherd named Whately, in the employ of Mr. Parsons, of Speckington Farm.

(says Whatley was accommodated with a house at Bridghampton)


Was there a Daughter that went to America?...(if below related, or was the truth!)

06 February 1892 - Chard and Ilminster News - Chard, Somerset, England

(another (quite long!) article, relating to theft of a watch and chain, worth £3 the property of Hannah Harding, of Knowle St. Giles, wife of George Harding.
George Whatley, farm labourer, Speckington near Yeovil, charged with stealing it, said his sister sent it to him from America...he added that the watch was at his home at Speckington locked in a box....when conveyed back there the watch was handed over by Whatley's mother who took it from a drawer in the kitchen...
On being charged Supt. Rawlings said Whatley had never been before the bench before, but he did not bear a good character. He was sentenced to six months hard labour.)

Thanks Chris thats great, definatley the right Walter as he was living in one of the cottages on the Speekington Manor Farm in the 1891 census.

I dont know about a daughter going to america but its totally possible. I ran in to a little snag because I've discovered that George Whatley has a cousin called George Whatley and annoying born in the same year in the same area. But saying that only one of them has sisters so Ill focus on that one.