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Can anyone decipher the occupation of Richard Osborne in the 1861 census. He was born 1829 in Walsall and he's shown as living with his wife, Jane, in Green Lane. The occupation is something to do with chair making but I can't figure it out.\
Thanks.

It looks like

(something - possibly General )Harness Furniture Maker

Maybe linked to this occupation found on Google search..............

http://doot.spub.co.uk/code.php?value=344

Covered Harness Furniture Maker ('Furniture' here meaning the buckles etc which were used on the harnesses)..

Dea x

Saw below, if you hadn't got...

Chris :)

Birmingham, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937 (Ancestry)

17 May 1853 Hockley, All Saints
Richard Osborne (24, Bachelor, occ. Covered Furniture Maker, Father, Samuel Osborne, occ. Chain Maker)
Jane Tonks (20, Spinster, Father, Samuel Tonks, occ. Bridle Cutter. wits. Henry Osborne, Caroline Osborne. Residence for both, Albert Street)


Marriages Jun 1853 (>99%)
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Osborne Richard Birmingham 6d 6
Tonks Jane Birmingham 6d 6

The last two letters "fs" of Harnefs on the the 1861 census...is the old spelling of "ss"

My 3x Grt Grandmother's maiden name was Moss.....Spelt "Mofs" on the earlier cencus records.

In case you don't have it....here is Richard on the 1851 census (The FMP version)

Surname mis-transcribed as Osburn

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Green Lane, Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Samuel Osburn Head Married Male 46 1805 Chain Maker E 5 Men Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Louisa Osburn Wife - Female 36 1815 - Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Richard Osburn Son Unmarried Male 22 1829 Coverd Funiture Manuf Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Henry Osburn Son Unmarried Male 20 1831 Chain Maker Walsall, Staffordshire, England
William Osburn Son - Male 16 1835 Chain Maker Walsall, Staffordshire, England
John Osburn Son - Male 14 1837 Chain Maker Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Louisa Osburn Daughter - Female 11 1840 - Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Samuel Osburn Son - Male 8 1843 - Walsall, Staffordshire, England
James Osburn Son - Male 6 1845 - Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Joseph Osburn Son - Male 4 1847 - Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Caroline Osburn Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Walsall, Staffordshire, England

Surname mis-transcribed as "Asbin" on Ancestry.

(did wonder if that occ. for Samuel on Marriage was Chain or Chair!, will amend, after seeing 1851!)

Saw below...(probably about on google also)

Chris :)

09 June 1855 - Perry's Bankrupt Gazette - London, London, England

INSOLVENTS, Interim Orders
County-court—Walsall Osbourn Samuel, of Walsall, chain maker and beer-house keeper


https://www.freereg.org.uk/

(some Wallsall Baptisms on above)

Thanks everyone. Chair making and furniture refinishing, etc., became the family trade later so it would all make sense.
Thanks also Chris for the bit about Samuel's insolvency. At least one of his children was born in the workhouse so I guess there's a story evolving here.

I think you will find he made horse collars and bridles etc. and maybe seating for coaches. They all seem to be Saddlers of some sort. All the brothers and some neighbours.

I think you're probably right Mel, but then later went into furniture making.
Thanks.

Not sure if I should add to this thread or start a new one, but I'm trying to find Richard Osborn in the 1871 census and not having any luck. I have him in 1861 but drawing a blank in 1871.
Thanks.

Just found a death that could explain why I can't find him - 1867 age 39. I can't even find his wife, Jane, in the 1871 census either, and there was a daughter, Ellen Jane born in 1865.

Looks like the John Osborne on the 1861 census is now Jane's husband/partner



1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

Essex Street, Lower Court House, Birmingham, Warwickshire, England



John Osborne Head - Male 33 1838 - Staffordshire, England

Jane Osborne Wife - Female 33 1838 - Staffordshire, England

Charles Osborne Son - Male 14 1857 - Staffordshire, England

Emma Osborne Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Staffordshire, England

Sydney Osborne Son - Male 10 1861 - Staffordshire, England

John Osborne Son - Male 8 1863 - Staffordshire, England

Ellen Jane Osborne Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Staffordshire, England

William Osborne Son - Male 3 1868 - Warwickshire, England

gro.gov.uk

OSBORNE, WILLIAM TONKS

GRO Reference: 1867 D Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 85

Marriages Sep 1870


OSBORNE Jane Birmingham 6d 77
OSBORNE John Birmingham 6d 77

The original reads TONKS not Fouks


Birmingham, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1937


Name: Jane Osborne [Jane Fouks]

Gender: Female

Age: 30

Birth Date: abt 1840

Marriage Date: 15 Aug 1870

Marriage Place: Birmingham, St David, Warwickshire, England

Parish as it Appears: Birmingham, St David


Father: Samuel Fouks (original reads Tonks)

Spouse: John Osborne

If, as it appears, John was Richard's brother, then I don't believe that the above marriage was legal at that time.

I think it was not until around 1921 that it became legal for a man to marry his deceased brother's widow?

Not that this stopped anyone from doing it before that date ;-)

Dea x

Thanks everybody.
Just found a tree for the Tonks family and it appears that the death above is Richard, no wonder I couldn't find him in the 1871 census. Jane apparently married John, Richard's brother, then he died in 1873 and she married again in 1879 to a James Stallwood.
This does explain things but whether it's correct I don't know.