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Pinnock Bastick marriage please

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Ronald

Ronald Report 13 Mar 2018 21:20

Hello,
I have William Henry Pinnock b 4 Sep 1911 in Shoreditch d 1987
Mary Pinnock b 6 Mar 1913 in Shoreditch d 1992
Alfred George Pinnock b Dec 1914 in Shoreditch d unknown
All have mother's maiden name as Bastick.
I have tried to find the marriage Pinnock/Bastick on Ancestry and Freebmd without success.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks,
Ron

Catherine

Catherine Report 13 Mar 2018 21:40

Their marriage certificates will give you their father's name and occupation which may help find them on 1911 census and eventually a correct marriage.

possible marriage for William Henry born 1911:-
Name: William H Pinnock
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1943
Registration district: Bethnal Green
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Lilian K Squibb
Volume Number: 1c
Page Number: 135

Rambling

Rambling Report 13 Mar 2018 21:44

not that it helps with parents but Alfred on 1939 , it is G on image

Pinnock Household (2 People)
187 Lcc Flats , Wandsworth, London, England


Annie F Pinnock 27 Apr 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 187 2
Alfred S Pinnock 14 Aug 1914 Male General Labourer Married 187 1

Catherine

Catherine Report 13 Mar 2018 21:45

You could also buy a copy of the birth certificate to find both parents names. If you buy that of William it should give you an adress so may be possible to find them in 1911 census.

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 13 Mar 2018 22:36

Perhaps she’d been married before, or wasn’t free to marry.

Ronald

Ronald Report 13 Mar 2018 23:26

Thank you all for your input. I will buy William's birth certificate as Catherine suggests. It's a shame he was born just after 1911 census was taken, but hopefully I could then find parents.
Thanks for 1939 details Nyx.

safc

safc Report 13 Mar 2018 23:58

????


Print transcription Add to tree
First name(s) ALFRED GEORGE
Last name PINNOCK
Gender Male
Birth day 14
Birth month 9
Birth year 1914
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1994
District Lambeth
District number 2411A
Register number A42
Entry number 004
Date of registration mm/yy 0194
County London
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England

(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 14 Mar 2018 06:27

Connected?

Record set England Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms
First name(s) Thomas Herbert
Last name Pinnock
Birth year 1910
Baptism year 1910
Parish Underwood Road
Diocese Westminster
County Middlesex
Country England
Mother's first name(s) Mary
Mother's last name Bastick
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Pinnock
Birth date 09 Apr 1910
Baptism date 01 May 1910
Church St Anne
Deanery Tower Hamlets
-------------------------

1911:
1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
19 Kossuth Buildings Boundary Street E C, Shoreditch, London & Middlesex, England
Thomas Pinnock Head Married Male 33 1878 Bethnel Green Hawker
Mary Pinnock Wife Married Female 28 1883 Bethnel Green -
Lucy Pinnock Daughter - Female 6 1905 Hoxton -
Thomas Pinnock Son - Male 1 1910 Stipalfields
-----------------------------------

1939:

Button Household (3 People) 12 Queen's Bldgs Chambord Street , Bethnal Green, London, England

Blooma Button 06 Nov 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Thomas H Pinnock 09 Apr 1910 Male Cabinet Maker Single
William Durrant 01 Jan 1904 Male Plywood Venner Worker Single

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 14 Mar 2018 06:58

possible earlier marriage for Mary:

Name: Mary Bastick
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 17
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1883
Marriage Date: 14 May 1900
Marriage Place: St James the Great, Bethnal Green, Tower Hamlets, England
Father: William Henry Bastick
Spouse: John William Camp
Register Type: Parish Register
-----------------------------

Possible birth for Lucy?

CAMP, MARTHA LOUISE (mmn: BASTICK )
GRO Reference: 1906 M Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 65

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 14 Mar 2018 07:01

If correct then her first husband was in and out of trouble:

England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment

Source A Calendar Of Prisoners Tried At The February General Session Of The Peace For The Year 1904
Record set England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935
First name(s) John William Or James
Last name Camp Or Cump Or Kemp
Year 1904
Birth year 1873
Occupation Horsekeeper
County London
Place -
Court Clerkenwell
Age 31
Date 09 Feb 1904
Victim's first name(s) Lewis
Victim's last name Adler

There are quite a few articles re this case.

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 14 Mar 2018 08:11

Mary had another child with John Camp:

CAMP, JOHN WILLIAM (mmn: BASTICK )
GRO Reference: 1904 M Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 515

He is with her parents in 1911:

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
5 Boundary Street E C, Shoreditch, London & Middlesex, England

William Bastick Head Married Male 51 1860 Bethnal Green Wood Worker
Mary Bastick Wife Married Female 51 1860 Bethnal Green -
William Bastick Son Single Male 23 1888 Bethnal Green Wood Worker
Rose Bastick Daughter Single Female 20 1891 Bethole Green Tailor
John Champ Grandson - Male 7 1904 Sepney

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 14 Mar 2018 08:29

1918 electoral register:

5 Boundary Street, Hackney
Mary Bastick
William Henry Bastick

9 Boundary Street, Hackney
Mary Pinnock
Thomas Pinnock
------------------------------------

1928 electoral register
9 Boundary Street, Hackney
Thomas Pinnock
Mary Pinnock

Catherine

Catherine Report 14 Mar 2018 14:18

Well done AustinQ well found.

looks to be the death of Thomas Herbert

Name: Thomas Herbert Pinnock
Death Age: 81
Birth Date: 9 Apr 1910
Registration Date: Aug 1991
Registration district: London City
Inferred County: Greater London
Volume: 14
Page: 653