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I have found Abraham Kirch on the 1881 census with his wife Rachael and 4 children Fanny aged 13, David aged 8 Golda aged 6, Morris (?) aged2 and Sarah aged 1,living in Tower Hamlets...2 White House Court, can anyone find the previous address in 1871 Census or any other information on this family please in any Census please

KIRSCH, DAVID MORRIS Order
GRO Reference: 1873 M Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 535 Order


KIRSH, HARRIS MORRIS Order
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 483

Kirsh Harris 1878 1957 1957 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Essex South Western, Essex, England

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Grove Street, St George in the East, London & Middlesex, England

Samuel Rosen Head Married Male 24 1867 Poland (Russia) Tailor Transcription
Fanny Rosen Wife Married Female 23 1868 Poland (Russia) - Transcription
Jacob Rosen Son - Male 2 1889 London, Middlesex, England - Transcription
Fanny Rosen Daughter - Female 0 1891 London, Middlesex, England - Transcription
David Kersh Lodger Single Male 18 1873 London, Middlesex, England Tailor



Marriages Mar 1888 (>99%)

Kirsh Fanny London City 1c 96
ROSEN Samuel London C. 1c 96

??????????

Rosen Fanny 1867 1894 1894 England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 St. George in the East, London, England

If the 1891 info about Fanny's birthplace is correct, they probably weren't in the UK in 1871

Adding reference...

Chris :)

1881 (Find My Past)
Abraham Kirsh Head Married Male 33 1848 Poland (Russia) Tailor
Rachael Kirsh Wife Married Female 31 1850 Poland (Russia) -
Fanny Kirsh Daughter Single Female 13 1868 City of London, Middlesex, England Tailoress
David Kirsh Son Single Male 8 1873 City of London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Golder Kirsh Daughter Single Female 6 1875 City of London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Harris Kirsh Son Single Male 3 1878 City of London, Middlesex, England -
Sarah Kirsh Daughter Single Female 1 1880 City of London, Middlesex, England
2, White Hart Court, Mile End Old Town, London & Middlesex


1891
Abraham Kersh Head Married Male 45 1846 Poland (Russia) Tailor
Rachel Kersh Wife Married Female 41 1850 Poland (Russia) -
Catherine Kersh Daughter Single Female 16 1875 London, Middlesex, England Tailoress
Harry Kersh Son - Male 14 1877 London, Middlesex, England Errand Boy Tailors
Sarah Kersh Daughter - Female 11 1880 London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Morris Kersh Son - Male 8 1883 London, Middlesex, England Scholar
Isaac Kersh Son - Male 5 1886 London, Middlesex, England -
Benjamin Kersh Son - Male 2 1889 London, Middlesex, England
Adelaide Street, Holy Trinity and St Mary, Hull, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (East Riding),

They didn't appear to register the girls' births, so no way of knowing which record is accurate with regard to Fanny.

A big gap between her and David.................

(not sure on below, surname could well have variants!)

Edits (no, by looks of others with Morris!)

Chris :)

Birth
KIRSHTEIN, FANNY (HARRIS)
GRO Reference: 1870 M Quarter in LONDON CITY Volume 01C Page 11

Interesting....................

KIRCH, ISAAC GOLHAM Order
GRO Reference: 1886 J Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 457

KIRCH, MORRIS GOLLUM Order
GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 484

Can't find a reg'n for Benjamin at the moment

KRSGH, CATHERINE KOLLAM Order
GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 520

(came across below yesterday, couldn't see it on GRO...(but don't think area related)

Births Mar 1888 (>99%)
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KIRSHEN_ZTEIN Benjamin Whitechapel 1c 311

Chris :)

(there are another family on 1911 Hull, could be confusing!, and sometimes their Christian names changed also, from experience of helping with past 'look up's' relating to Polish/Russian families)

http://www.yorkshirebmd.org.uk/

(above covers Hull, and using Soundex option, could be a few!)

Wow, thank you so much for all your work ...Kirsh was eventually changed to Cash, but don't know when .

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1253565

(so Morris Cash 1911 on other 'Thread', was him above?)

Chris :)

1911 (Find My Past) (Reference)
Morris Cash Head Married Male 29 1882 London Whitchapel Wood Carver
Katherine Cash Wife Married Female 25 1886 Amsturdan Holland -
Samuel Cash Son - Male 7 1904 London Stepney -
Hyman Cash Son - Male 6 1905 London Stepney -
Alfred Cash Son - Male 4 1907 London Stepney -
Michael Cash Son - Male 0 1911 London Bethnal Green
27 Shepton Houses, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex
(says Married 8yrs, 4 children born, 4 living)


Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
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Bleekveld Catharina Whitechapel 1c 476
Cash Morris Whitechapel 1c 476


Births Sep 1912 (>99%)
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Cash Esther Bleekveld Bethnal G. 1c 252


Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
Cash Edward Bleckveld Bethnal G. 1c 334


Births Dec 1916 (>99%)
Cash David Bleakveld Shoreditch 1c 122


1901 (Find My Past)
Abraham Cash Head Married Male 55 1846 Russia Tailor
Rachel Cash Wife Married Female 52 1849 Russia
Davis Cash Son Single Male 28 1873 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Tailor
Morris Cash Son Single Male 18 1883 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Wood Carver
Isaac Cash Son - Male 15 1886 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England Tailor
Benjamin Cash Son - Male 12 1889 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England -
Errin Cash Son - Male 7 1894 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England -
Isaac Barnett Son-In-Law Married Male 28 1873 Russia Hair Dresser
Sarah Barnett Daughter Married Female 21 1880 Whitechapel, Middlesex, England
150, Oxford Street, Mile End Old Town, London & Middlesex,


Marriages Sep 1900 (>99%)
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Barnett Isaac Liverpool 8b 351
Cash Sarah Liverpool 8b 351


Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1900

CASH Sarah BARNETT Isaac Liverpool, Hope Place Synagogue Liverpool J12/3/44


(below a Son, 1911 family Liverpool)

Birth
BARNETT, MORTIMER HENRY (CASH)
GRO Reference: 1904 D Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 406


Deaths Dec 1959 (>99%)
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CASH Morris 77 Hitchin 4b 112

(above, from other 'Thread')


1939 Register (Find My Past)

4 Lancaster Avenue , Hitchin U.D., Hertfordshire
David Cash 27 Aug 1916 Male Psv Omnibus Conductor Single
Norris Cash 05 Apr 1882 Male Taxi Driver Travelling Married
Katherine Cash 20 Aug 1885 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Esther Hetty Crane 11 Aug 1912 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Hugh Allan Crane 29 Jun 1934 Male At School Single
Samuel Cash 24 Sep 1903 Male Taxi Driver Travelling Single


(so as posted earlier, Birth below?)

KIRCH, MORRIS GOLLUM Order
GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 484


1911 (Find My Past)
Abraham Cash Head Married Male 65 1846 Russia Poland Tailors Presser
Rachel Cash Wife Married Female 61 1850 Russia Poland
Benny Cash Son Single Male 22 1889 Stepney London Musical Artist
Ernie Cash Son Single Male 16 1895 Stepney London Ladies Tailor Machinist
56 Teesdale St Bethnal Green N E, Bethnal Green, London & Middlesex,
(says Married 44yrs, 11 children born, 8 living 3 died)


(so that missing Benjamin Birth!)

Birth
CASH, BENJAMIN (GOLLUM)
GRO Reference: 1889 J Quarter in MILE END OLD TOWN Volume 01C Page 460

It would have been helpful if you'd told us ALL you knew - particularly the bit about the surname change.

It isn't really a good idea to withold info when you are asking people to help you

Cash Household (6 People)
19 Harman Drive , Hendon M.B., Middlesex, England


Benjamin Cash 05 Apr 1889 Male Master Milliner Married 184 1
Doris Cash 05 Apr 1889 Female Housewife Married 184 2
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Hedwig Pollak 24 Jun 1896 Female Domestic Single 184 5
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Many thanks to you all, this is what I need, and sorry about name change , i forgot to mention it......will do in future :-D

Excellent............... ;-)

Just to say many thanks, but no one in the family knows who or when the name was changed to Cash, something we can figure out ??

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1900
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CASH Sarah BARNETT Isaac Liverpool, Hope Place Synagogue Liverpool J12/3/44

NB Until WW1, Poland was a province of Russia.