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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2018 10:08

Here are George, Ann and Enos in 1861:


Enos Peace
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Enos Peace
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: 1860
Relation: Son
Father's name: George Peace
Mother's name: Ann Peace
Gender: Male
Where born: Newhall, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Newhall
Ecclesiastical parish: Newhall
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Registration district: Burton Upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Gresley
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 66
Piece: 1963
Folio: 118
Page Number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
George Peace 38
Ann Peace 40
Thomas Peace 14
William Peace 12
Levi Peace 9
Sarah Peace 8
Harriet Peace 4
Eli Peace 3
Enos Peace 1
Mary Marsh 73

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2018 09:46

PEACE, ENOS mms MILLER
GRO Reference: 1860 J Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 307


??

Marriages Mar 1846 (>99%)
Miller Ann Burton upon Trent 17 2
Peace George Burton upon Trent 17 2

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2018 09:45

Enos Peace
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Enos Peace
Gender: Male
Age: 31
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1860
Spouse: Kate Peace
Child: George Peace
John T Peace
William Peace
Fanny Peace
Mary A Peace
Lilly Peace
Birth Place: Newhall, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Newhall
Residence Place: Newhall, Derbyshire, England
Sub registration district: Gresley
ED, Institution or Vessel: 25
Neighbors:
Piece: 2200
Folio: 115
Household Members:
Name Age
Enos Peace 31
Kate Peace 31
George Peace 10
John T Peace 8
William Peace 6
Fanny Peace 5
Mary A Peace 3
Lilly Peace 1

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2018 09:43

Connected??

John W Peace
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: John W Peace
Mother's Maiden Name: Stretton
Registration Year: 1913
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Mansfield
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 151


Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%)
Peace George Burton 6b 674
Stretton Alice Burton 6b 674


George Peace
in the 1911 England Census
Name: George Peace
Age in 1911: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Newhall, Derbyshire
Civil Parish: Stanton and Newhall
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street address: 20 George Street, Newhall
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 9
Estimated Marriage Year: 1902
Occupation: Collier Coal Getter Hewer
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Registration District Number: 365
Sub-registration district: Gresley
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 98
Piece: 16779
Household Members:
Name Age
George Peace 30
Alice Peace 29
Francies Lilian Peace 9
Dorothy May Peace 7
George Enos Peace 5
Nellie Peace 11/12


George Peace
in the England & Wales, Christening Index, 1530-1980
Name: George Peace
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 3 Apr 1881
Christening Place: Newhall, Derbyshire, England
Father: Enos Peace
Mother: Kate Peace


Enos Peace
in the Derbyshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932
Name: Enos Peace
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 25 Oct 1880
Marriage Place: Newhall, Derbyshire, England
View this parish
Father: George Peace
Spouse: Kate Hoskison

Dea

Dea Report 1 Jun 2018 09:38

I have been looking at this from 'Sherrif' John's angle but although I can see that he came from a coal mining family I can find his birth and mother's maiden name but nothing more ??

You say you have his birth cert, perhaps you could tell me the full details from that please which I might then be able to follow back?

As this person is still very much alive you should NOT put those details on here but perhaps you might click on my name and send them to me by private message?

Thanks,

Dea x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 1 Jun 2018 09:33

John W & Alma's marriage is listed with the name spelled PeaRce .

Perhaps you need to buy a copy of the marriage cert, to find out John's father's name.

Riley54

Riley54 Report 1 Jun 2018 08:57

James and Rosa Peace
I have all the children listed apart from Albert Edward and I also have James Edward born 1904.

William Enoch and Clara Brooks
I am in contact with my Dads cousin and these were her grandparents. She has never heard of Robin.

Levi and Beatrice Peace
I visited them as a child with my family and I know they only had one son Raymond

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 1 Jun 2018 08:42

and here!- he was born 1949 (not seeing a marriage for his parents):
http://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/council-and-democracy/lord-lieutenant/current

EDIT:
Found marriage- mother, Alma, father, John W Peace- married 1946

Riley54

Riley54 Report 1 Jun 2018 08:27

Well I never!
Thank you Dea

Dea

Dea Report 1 Jun 2018 08:09

There is a photo of the above Sir John Peace here:

http://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/council-and-democracy/lord-lieutenant

Dea x

Riley54

Riley54 Report 31 May 2018 23:33

Thank you ArgyllGran for all your information I will go through it tomorrow.

Sharon

Riley54

Riley54 Report 31 May 2018 23:29

Hello Catherine

He definitely had the surname Peace. I used to work at a school and when he died I couldn't go to the funeral but my Dad went. When the obituary appeared in the local paper I noticed a lady's name who worked at the same place so I asked her if she was related and she said only by her sisters marriage. I told her my maiden name was Peace and she said well you'll know John Peace then and his wife Christine. I told her I had never heard of him and neither had my Dad. She said well he's related to Robin and he's the Sheriff on Nottingham. So in my quest I sent for John's birth certificate and discovered his parents names but then drew a blank.

I've just googled Robin Peace Warsop Vale and it seems there is a local history book that he is in and says that he played football for Nottingham Forest so I need to get one of those books to see if there is anymore information. That will be my first job tomorrow.
I really appreciate your help.
Thank you
Sharon

Catherine

Catherine Report 31 May 2018 23:22

off to bed now but will try and take another look tomorrow.

Catherine

Catherine Report 31 May 2018 23:22

This looks to be Harriet married to Harry Stafford

1911
Name: Mrs Hariet Stafford
Age in 1911: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Newhall
Civil Parish: Beeston
Search Photos: Search for 'Beeston' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address: 3 Mill Yard Beeston Notts
Registration district: Basford
Registration District Number: 429
Sub-registration district: Beeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Piece: 20431
Household Members:
Name Age
Harry Stafford 24
Hariet Stafford 19

their possible children:-
Births Dec 1911 (>99%)
Stafford William L Peace Basford 7b 486
Births Sep 1913 (>99%)
Stafford Claude H Peace Aston 6d 1006
Births Jun 1915 (>99%)
Stafford Horace A Peace Burton 6b 739
Births Jun 1916 (>99%)
Stafford Edna M Peace Burton 6b 642

Catherine

Catherine Report 31 May 2018 22:48

Are you sure that Robin's surname was Peace?

Is it possible that he was the son of one of the girls and so had another surname?

Catherine

Catherine Report 31 May 2018 22:31

sorry had to leave to look after dinner, but I see others have taken up the search. :-)

So if Robin had the name Peace, then we should be able to rule out all the sisters, unless he was born out of wedlock, would that be possible?

We can also rule out Arthur, of course, and by the looks of it also, Horace and John Henry.

so:-

Name: Levi Peace
Registration Year: 1903
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
??
Name: Levi Peace
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1928
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Spouse: Beatrice M Measures
Volume Number: 7a
Page Number: 572

looks like only one child to this couple:-

Births Sep 1929 (>99%)
Peace Raymond H Measures Leicester 7a 303

1939
Name: Levi Peace
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 19 Feb 1903
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 29 Andrewes Street
Residence Place: Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Occupation: Packer Rubber Coveing Factory Heavy Worker
Schedule Number: 83
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: REUE
Registration district: 407-3.
Inferred Spouse: Beatrice M Peace
Household Members:
Name
Levi Peace
Beatrice M Peace
plus one other,( closed record)

so doesn't look as though they had other children.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 May 2018 22:18



PEACE, WILLIAM ENOCH mms COX
GRO Reference: 1907 S Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 397


Possible death ?? [ EDIT: A tree on Ancestry agrees with this. DOB apparently 04/07/1907 ]

Deaths Sep 1946 (>99%)
Peace William E 39 Leicester 3a 439


Possible marriage ??

Marriages Mar 1929 (>99%)
BROOKS Clara R Peace Leicester 7a 428
Peace William E Brooks Leicester 7a 428


Clara's remarriage after William's death:

Clara R Peace
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Clara R Peace
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1947
Registration district: Leicester
Inferred County: Leicestershire
Spouse: Walter W R Green
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 1988


1939:

Clara R Peace
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Clara R Peace
[Clara R Green]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 6 Sep 1909
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 14.Longcliffe Road
Residence Place: Leicester, Leicestershire, England
Occupation: Paper Bag Maker
Schedule Number: 381
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: REJY
Registration district: 407-2.
Inferred Spouse: William I Peace
Inferred Children: Alan E Peace
Household Members:
Name
William I Peace
Clara R Peace
Alan E Peace
This record is officially closed.
This record is officially closed.
David M Peace

There were 5 Peace/Brooks children born in Leicester 1929-38.

But none in Nottinghamshire area, and none called Robin or Robert.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 May 2018 21:53

Brother Albert Edward - his birth doesn't seem to show on GRO site:


Albert Edward Peace
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Albert Edward Peace
Registration Year: 1903
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 455


His death:

Deaths Jun 1962 (>99%)
PEACE Albert E 59 Burton 9b 57

I don't see a convincing marriage for him.

He was single in 1939 - if this is the right Albert - who's Mary Peace?:

Albert E Peace
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Albert E Peace
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 4 Feb 1903
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 19
Residence Place: Burton-upon-Trent, Staffordshire, England
Occupation: Gen'l Labourer A R P Heavy Worker
Schedule Number: 236
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: OLAS
Registration district: 365-1
Household Members:
Name
Mary M Peace - widow, 25/11/1861 { I think the middle initial is J }
Albert E Peace
Lilian M Boshill - 05/03/1918, single, later married Gilbertson.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 May 2018 21:34

Arthur's brother John:


PEACE, JOHN HENRY mms COX
GRO Reference: 1894 M Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 425


Marriages Sep 1916 (>99%)
Peace John H Yates Burton 6b 561
Yates Lilian M Peace Burton 6b 561

Only one child, apparently:

Births Sep 1917 (>99%)
Peace Rosamund I Yates Burton 6b 551

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 May 2018 21:27

So -
working through Arthur's male siblings -

PEACE, HORACE mms COX
GRO Reference: 1884 D Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B


??
Marriages Sep 1907 (>99%)
PEACE Horace Burton 6b 765
PRICE Edith Mary Burton 6b 765


Horace Peace
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Horace Peace
Age in 1911: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Newhall, Derbyshire
Civil Parish: Swadlincote
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street address: No 2 Union Rd, Swadlincote, Burton On Trent
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Tram Conductor
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Registration District Number: 365
Sub-registration district: Gresley
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 75
Piece: 16777
Household Members:
Name Age
Horace Peace 25
Edith Mary Peace 23
Sydney Peace 1

Another child - looks like the only other one:

Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Peace Faith Price Burton 6b 721

Sadly, both Sidney and Faith died in infancy:

Faith Peace
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Faith Peace
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1913
Registration Year: 1913
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 486


Sydney Peace
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Sydney Peace
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Registration Year: 1912
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 2
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 498