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I've found this Elizabeth Butler, a kitchenmaid at a private hotel at 15 -16 New Bond Street, London:

Elizabeth Butler
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Butler
Gender: Female
Age: 25
Relationship: Servant
Birth Year: 1866
Birth Place: Victoria Park, London, England
Civil Parish: St George Hanover Square
Residence Place: London City, St George Hanover Square, London, England
Sub registration district: Mayfair
ED, Institution or Vessel: 8
Neighbors:
Piece: 68
Folio: 53



Can any of you eagle-eyed people spot her at any other time, please?

I know it's a very common name, which doesn't help.

I'm really trying to rule her out (or in, with birthplace entered wrongly) as a possibility for my lost Elizabeth Butler.
I know the birth place isn't my Elizabeth's, but maybe it's a mistake (?? grasping at straws). My Elizabeth was a domestic servant in the same area in 1881.

My Elizabeth is as follows:

Birth:
BUTLER, ELIZABETH mms CLAYDON
GRO Reference: 1864 D Quarter in BANBURY Volume 03A Page 614



Elizabeth Butler
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Butler
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: John Butler
Mother's name: Ann Butler
Gender: Female
Where born: Boddicott, Oxfordshire, England
Civil Parish: Boddicott
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England
Registration district: Banbury
Sub-registration district: Bloxham
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Household schedule number: 16
Piece: 1460
Folio: 81
Page Number: 3
Household Members:
Name Age
John Butler 50
Ann Butler 45
William Butler 13
John L Butler 9 [ John T Butler ]
Elizabeth Butler 5
Lilas Butler 9 Months [Silas]


Elizabeth Butler
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Butler
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Bodicott, Oxfordshire, England
Civil Parish: St Pancras
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 11 St George Sqe [ called Chalcot Square since late 1930's ]
Occupation: Housemaid
Registration district: Pancras
Sub registration district: Regents Park
ED, institution, or vessel: 25a
Neighbors:
Piece: 183
Folio: 63
Page Number: 49
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Walker 69
Mary A. Walker 59
Alice Walker 32
Florence Walker 30
Mira Pranklin 23
Elizabeth Butler 17


After that, I can't find her. She didn't marry, as far as I can see.
I've checked out all the Elizabeths born 1864-6 in Bodicote (aka Boddicot ) in 1891 and later, and none of the married ones are her.

She doesn't seem to have emigrated.

If she died in London, this is the only feasible death, but I haven't felt desperate enough to buy the cert - so far:
Deaths Sep 1933 (>99%)
Butler Elizabeth 69 Fulham 1a 286

There are a few possible deaths in other, but unexpected, places.


So, today I came across the 1891 census posted above, and wondered if by some chance she could be my Elizabeth.

It's probably an impossible task, but as the boards are quietish at present, maybe someone's up for the challenge of trying to rule the 1891 one out?

Many thanks in advance - I'll look back later.

(I have all the details of her parents and siblings - it's only Elizabeth who is a problem.)

????
is this the 1891 census you have


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wilton Crescent, St George Hanover Square, London & Middlesex, England

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Household Members
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Louisa Johnson Head Widow Female 73 1818 Hampshire, England Living On Own Means
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Eliza Laughton Niece Single Female 46 1845 India Living On Own Means
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Sarah Gillam Servant Single Female 31 1860 Hertfordshire, England Cook Domestic Servant
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Cecilie Lake Servant Single Female 38 1853 London, Middlesex, England Ladies Maid Domestic Servant
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Elizabeth Butler Servant Single Female 25 1866 Worcestershire, England Housemaid Domestic Servant xxxxxxxx
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Arthur A Haynes Servant Single Male 18 1873 Scotland Footman Domestic Servant
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Elizabeth Yerrow Servant Single Female 21 1870 Hampshire, England Kitchen Maid Domestic Servant

worcester has a line through it
next to it says sunbury

Thanks for replying, safc.

No, the 1891 is at the beginning of my post.
Birthplace given as Victoria Park, London.

But the one you've posted could be another equally shot-in-the-dark possibility.

Elizabeth Butler is a very common name.

this could be her birth i think victoria is the same distric

Elizabeth Butler
England and Wales Birth Registration Index, 1837-2008
Name: Elizabeth Butler
Event Type: Birth Registration
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Year: 1866
Registration District: Westminster St. Margaret
County: London
Event Place: Westminster St. Margaret, London, England
Volume: 1A
Page: 349
Line Number: 183

I don't know the districts of London well.

What reg district would Victoria Park be in?

Wikipedia says:
Victoria Park (known colloquially as Vicky Park or the People's Park) is a park and neighbourhood[1] in the East End of London, England.[2][3] The park is 86.18 hectares of open space [4], the park opened in 1845 and stretches out across part of Tower Hamlets, bordering parts of Bethnal Green, South Hackney, Cambridge Heath and Old Ford, such as along Old Ford Road, London E3 and Victoria Park Road E9. The name has also been applied to the neighbourhood around it which is entirely within the London Borough of Tower Hamlets.


EDIT:

But apparently there's another Victoria Park:

Victoria Park is in Church End in Finchley in the London Borough of Barnet. It covers seven hectares (17 acres). It is close to Finchley Central and West Finchley tube stations.

Victoria Park is in the East End -Tower Hamlets/Hackney area

So the Elizabeth in 1891 could be one of the two born in Mile End in 1867 and 1866.
Or maybe one of the two born in Poplar, 1866-7.

Ah well, I don't suppose she really could be my Elizabeth with a mistake on the census record - it was just a sudden burst of hope that I'd found mine!

i worked in victoria comes under westminster i lived opposite victoria park in 1961 in hackney eastend

You're right about that area of central London called Victoria, malyon.

But that's not where Victoria Park is. As Erika says, it's in the East end.

Anyway, I don't think she's my Elizabeth after all.

Ho hum! Back to the drawing board.

Thanks for looking, all of you.

Elizabeth Butler
Vermont, St. Albans Canadian Border Crossings, 1895-1954
Name: Elizabeth Butler
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 1914
Event Place: Vermont, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 50
Birth Year (Estimated): 1864
Birth Country: England

Not sure if this is the same event as malyon posted or not

U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1960
Name: Elizabeth Butler
Gender: Male [!!??]
Race/Nationality: English
Age: 50
Record Type: Manifests
Birth Date: abt 1864
Birth Country: England
Arrival date: Jan 1914
Port of Arrival: Rouses Point, New York, USA
Residence Country: England
Line Number: 9

She was a widow with her nearest relative in the UK being her daughter Mrs (can't make out the name) of 1 Alington St, Brick Lane, Manchester

Have you discounted this one?

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
1, West Bar Terrace, Banbury, Oxfordshire, England

Charlotte Washbrook Head Widow Female 83 1818 Banbury, Oxfordshire, England Living On Own Means
Elizabeth Butler Servant Single Female 38 1863 Banbury, Oxfordshire, England Nurse (Domestic)

Looks very likely Austin.

Could Charlotte be an aunt or some other relative we might follow?

Marriages Sep 1841 (>99%)
***BUTLER Charlotte Banbury 16 6 Scan available - click to view
Collis Thomas Banbury 16 6 Scan available - click to view
HIRONS Charlotte Banbury 16 6 Scan available - click to view
HOPCROFT Richard Banbury 16 6 Scan available - click to view
Ludlow James Banbury 16 6 Scan available - click to view
MEADS Mary Ann Banbury 16 6 Scan available - click to view
POWELL Ann Banbury 16 6 Scan available - click to view
***WASHBROOK George Banbury 16 6 Scan available - click to view

Only guessing he married Charlotte Butler though at the moment as there is another Charlotte on there too............

Dea x

Yes, it was Charlotte Butler who married George - her father was James and he was a Butcher !!

Who were 'your' Elizabeth's parents please?

Dea x

AAhh - I see they were John + Ann. - I can't see a connection just at the moment..

Dea x

I can't see a connection either.

EDIT: Ignore this- see below

I was also looking at this- it probably isn't her but I can't find a marriage or birth for the children:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Hurst Lodge Garden, Wards Cross, Broad Hinton, Wokingham, Wiltshire & Berkshire, England

William Bratt Head Married Male 28 1863 Warwickshire, Gardener Domestic Servant
Elizabeth Bratt Wife Married Female 27 1864 Bodicote, Oxfordshire,
Elsie Bratt Daughter - Female 5 1886 Oxfordshire, England
Annie Bratt Daughter - Female 4 1887 Berkshire, England
William Bratt Son - Male 2 1889 Berkshire, England
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1911 census for them states married 25 years.

I think this is her is 1939- year of birth 1863 (a year out)

Bratt Household (2 People) Main Street , Banbury R.D., Oxfordshire, England
Elizabeth Bratt 17 Sep 1863 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single (W on image)
William R Bratt 28 Jul 1918 Male Farm Master Single
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EDIT: Ignore this! Have now found the births- looks like this Elizabeth was a Sanders- she married Bratt in 1886, after birth of Elsie:

SANDERS, ELSIE ELIZABETH BRATT -
GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in BANBURY Volume 03A Page 916

Yes, Elizabeth Bratt nee Sanders is one of the married Elizabeths born approx. 1864-6 in Bodicote whom I've investigated before.

There is no Butler relation named Charlotte as far as I'm aware.

Elizabeth's parents' marriage:

Marriages Mar 1851 (>99%)
Butler John Brackley 15 285
Claydon Ann Maria Brackley 15 285

I haven't found them in 1861.


There's a very similar family living in Daventry in 1861 - who have a daughter Charlotte - but that's not the right family, and anyway that Charlotte was only born 1861

My Butlers' children were:


BUTLER, LOUISA mms CLAYDON
GRO Reference: 1854 M Quarter in BANBURY UNION Volume 03A Page 596

BUTLER, MARY ANN mms CLAYDON
GRO Reference: 1855 J Quarter in BLOXHAM Volume 03A Page 576

BUTLER, WILLIAM mms CLAYDON
GRO Reference: 1858 M Quarter in BANBURY UNION Volume 03A Page 632

BUTLER, JOHN THOMAS mms CLAYDON
GRO Reference: 1860 J Quarter in NARBERTH Volume 11A Page 697

BUTLER, ELIZABETH mms CLAYDON
GRO Reference: 1864 D Quarter in BANBURY Volume 03A Page 614


BUTLER, SILAS mms CLAYDON
GRO Reference: 1870 S Quarter in BANBURY Volume 03A Page 682

John & Ann in 1851:

John Butler
in the 1851 England Census
Name: John Butler
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann Maria
Gender: Male
Where born: Newbottle, Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Kings Sutton
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County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration district: Brackley
Sub-registration district: Brackley
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 22
Piece: 1735
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
John Butler 29
Ann Maria 25

John and his father in 1841:

John Buttler
in the 1841 England Census
Name: John Buttler
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Northamptonshire, England
Civil Parish: Kings Sutton
Hundred: Kings Sutton
County/Island: Northamptonshire
Country: England
Registration district: Brackley
Sub-registration district: Brackley
Neighbors:
Piece: 804
Book: 11
Folio: 25
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Sileme Buttler 60 [ Silas ]
John Buttler 20