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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Jul 2018 20:39

As Joyce married during the war, perhaps her marriage cert says something about a forces occupation.

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Jul 2018 20:38

AG ................

I gather short service was not that unusual in WW2 .............. met someone, got married and pregnant and had to take a discharge.

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Jul 2018 20:37

Hadn't thought of that, Sylvia!

But they'll only have access to the same records as we do, unless with the addition of Fold3.

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Jul 2018 20:37

Lynne .............

there are 2 family trees on Ancestry that have Joseph, with parents Lydia Mary Bailey (1878-1967) and John Steadman (1879-1946), and 6 siblings ........ but no other documentation fro Joseph.

Siblings named on the trees ..............



Maud Steadman 1898–1898

John Steadman 1900–

Lydia Steadman 1904–

Ernest Reginald Steadman 1907–1978

Alfred H S Steadman 1907–1908

Lillian Steadman 1910–


I have no way of knowing how accurate that is!!!!!!!!!

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Jul 2018 20:33

AG ............... I thought some of the guys looked on there when they didn't bother with the other board??

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 13 Jul 2018 20:31

The military boards community are just the same people as on this board!

I'm not aware of women's forces records being available online - WAAFs, etc. There's not a lot for WW2 in any case, but it's all men, as far as I know.

If she signed up , it couldn't have been for long, having married in 1942, and first child born 1943.

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

Lynnedee

Lynnedee Report 13 Jul 2018 20:29

thanks very much I'll ask now. It would be interesting, I wonder if that is how she met her future husband

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Ball/Orme/Baker

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Jul 2018 20:24

Yes, ask on that board

many/most service records for WW2 have not been released, so appraoches have to be made to the Ministry by a family member.

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Lynnedee

Lynnedee Report 13 Jul 2018 20:21

Where would I be able to find out if Joyce did join up - would the military boards community be able to help me?

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Ball/Orme/Baker

Lynnedee

Lynnedee Report 13 Jul 2018 20:12

Oh I wonder if Joyce did join the services, can't see why "posting" would be mentioned otherwise.
By the way, SylvainCanada - thank you for these pieces of information. I recall seeing a tree on Ancestry for Steadman at one time but I no longer subscribe to Ancestry and I don't know if there is any connection as I was looking for my own relatives at that time but I would have checked if only I had foresight!!

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Ball/Orme/Baker

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Jul 2018 20:03

?????????????

brothers??

from GRO Index

STEADMAN, ERNEST REGINALD mmn BAILEY
GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 63

STEADMAN, ARNOLD THOMAS mmn BAILEY
GRO Reference: 1916 M Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 371

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Jul 2018 20:00

This is Joyce on the 1939 Register ...............

Scriminger Household (6 People) 92 Sheepscar Street North , Leeds C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation
Joyce V P Steadman (Bennett) 19 Jul 1919 Bar General
Arthur Scriminger 16 Sep 1906 Licensee
Dorothy E Scriminger 11 Jun 1913 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Mary Webster (Dunbar) 08 Aug 1914 Bar General
Clara Scriminger 20 Dec 1905 Canteen Worker


There is a note added to the right of Joyce's entry that says "see note on line below for posting"

But the line below is blacked out! It could be that she joined up?????

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Lynnedee

Lynnedee Report 13 Jul 2018 19:59

He mentioned 2 brothers I think one was Leslie, but I haven't been able to find a Leslie around the age of Joseph and there isn't one on Joyces' side.

I'm hoping some of the paperwork from my friends relative will be certificates to confirm any information.

Researching:
Ball/Orme/Baker

Lynnedee

Lynnedee Report 13 Jul 2018 19:49

Yes that is the correct Joseph

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Ball/Orme/Baker

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Jul 2018 19:48

As you know, you need the birth certificate to be absolutely sure, but this could be the marriage of Joseph's parents ...........

Marriages Jun 1897 (>99%)
Bailey Lydia Mary Birmingham 6d 235
Steadman John Birmingham 6d 235

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 13 Jul 2018 19:46

Why should you be in the wrong???

It's a genealogy question!!

The only time helpers get upset if it is a paid researcher using us to do his/her work for free!


Is this Joseph Steadman's birth registration

From GRO Index

STEADMAN, JOSEPH mmn BAILEY
GRO Reference: 1912 M Quarter in BIRMINGHAM Volume 06D Page 101

Researching:
My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.

Lynnedee

Lynnedee Report 13 Jul 2018 19:37

I hope I am not in the wrong for asking for the following help and if I am please tell me and I will delete this thread. I am trying to help a friend with his family history, he is trying to get in touch with a relative who has apparently some certificates/documents to do with the family but in the meantime I thought I would start looking, At present the only details I have are :
Joseph Steadman born 1912 in Aston, Birmingham He got married in B'ham in 1942 to Joyce V P Bennett born in Pontefract, Yorkshire in 1919. They had 7 children (all living) between 1943 and 1961. The eldest was born and lived in Yorkshire for about 5 years before the family moved to B'ham. I found Josephs mothers' maiden name was Bailey and Joyces' mothers maiden name was Shaw.
I think the P in Joyces' name is Peace.

Researching:
Ball/Orme/Baker

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