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1939 Register Sutton in Ashfield Nottinghamshire

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 Aug 2018 11:39

I don't see James Joseph's birth online, but if you were to buy a copy of his marriage record (posted on page 2 - on 25 Aug @ 16:22) it should at least give his father's name.

There's a record of a James Keane born in Dublin in 1871 - but no middle name.
I don't think it's him, but I'll post it just in case:

SR District/Reg Area - Dublin South
Birth of JAMES KEANE in 1871
Name JAMES KEANE
Date of Birth 1871
Group Registration ID 9695153
SR District/Reg Area Dublin South

22 Aug 1871 at 67 Grange Lane.
Father: John Keane, 67 Grange Lane, fitter.
Mother: Maria Keane, formerly Keenan.
Informant: Catherine Keenan, present at birth, 67 Grange Lane.

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 Aug 2018 10:53

2. The British Army: The original records are all in the British National Archives in London (www.nationalarchives.gov.uk). Their Medal Card records are very useful for First World Ward servicemen. Surviving service records of the First World War are transcribed at www.ancestry.co.uk. Pre-1914 service and pension records are at www.findmypast.co.uk.

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie

Remember that that up to 70% of WW1 Records were destroyed during WW2 bombing.

There must be an email link or ‘contact us’ button somewhere to ask about Eire pre & post 1922 prison officer records.
Bear in mind that Partition took place in May 1921. It’s difficult to guess where the records ended up.

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 27 Aug 2018 10:33

Thankyou for your reply

I have been looking on the Census for Ireland
1911 and 1901 Census,
Which I have found it states only by luck
James Joseph Keane born 1870 Ish Ireland in the Prison Service
Would we be able to find any information
Bye for now
PS I wonder who his Mother and Father were
Olive

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 27 Aug 2018 10:13

Online military records have a cut-off of 1921 for Eire, & 1922 for the UK. The latter are held by the MOD & cost £30 to be sent a copy.
It’s probably the same for the Eire Defence Forces.

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 27 Aug 2018 06:30


All I can say is WOW It’s amazing how you find all this information

So Thankyou once again

Would I be able to find the army records for Ireland If I went into the local Library
On Ancestry Co uk (Ireland )

Bye for now and a Big Thankyou
Olive

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2018 21:42

Yes, it does. I don't know anything about his service record, though.



Here's an army record for his father;

Leo Keane
in the Web: Ireland, National Army Census, 1922
Name: Leo Keane
Military Year: 1922
Military Place: Macroom, Cork, Ireland
Page Number: 68

Regimental Number 24096.
Rank: Sec. Sergt. in the Infantry reserves [Not sure what "sec" stands for - Section ?? ]
Address: Lodge Glasheen Road, Cork.
Number on pay book: 04046
Date of attestation: 22/08/1922.
Place of attestation: Female Prison, Cork.
Religion: RC
NOK: Mother, Kath Keane, Lodge Glasheen Road, Cork.

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 26 Aug 2018 19:52

Thankyou once again
For the London Electorals Registers

It mentions Young Leo Keane who is listed as a Service Voter
Does that mean he was in the Forces

Thankyou
Olive

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2018 18:07

Re the possible Fulham death of Christopher in 1943 -

in 1946 Leo senior and Mary are living at 42 Broomhouse Road, Fulham:

Leo Keane
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Leo Keane
Year: 1946
County or Borough: Hammersmith and Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Fulham East and West
Street address: 42 Broom Villa [mistranscription - actually Broomhouse Road ]


They're still there in 1965, along with young Leo, who is listed as a Service Voter:

Leo Keane Sr
in the London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
Name: Leo Keane Sr
Year: 1965
County or Borough: Fulham
Ward or Division/Constituency: Fulham
Street address: 42 Churchfield Mansions (mistranscribed - actually Broomhouse Road)
Reference Number: LCC/PER/B/3018

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2018 17:31

We're always delighted to answer questions!

No, there will be no record of their travel from Ireland to England - that doesn't count as immigration.

It may have been after Leo senior's marriage in 1936 - but of course he may have been in England already, and just travelled back to Ireland for the wedding.

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 26 Aug 2018 15:36


Thankyou again
I thought maybe they were brothers
Would it be possible to find their immigration for the entry into England at all

As for their deaths maybe they went back to Ireland sometime

Yes I have read the Census and 1939 Register
Thankyou again
Sorry to keep asking questions
Olive

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Aug 2018 14:22

Yes Christopher is Leo's brother, and is listed in both 1911 and 1939.

I posted his baptism record on page 2 of this thread, and the DOB is the same as in 1939.

In 1939 he was a labourer at a steel works.


I can't see his death definitively yet.

Maybe a possibility:

Deaths Dec 1943 (>99%)
Keane Christopher 35 Fulham 1a 388

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 26 Aug 2018 08:14

Good Morning to you all

I have been looking through the info you have all sent me and just wondered who

Christopher Keane born 1903 25th December he is on
1939 Register Middlesex UK with Leo Keane and his wife Mary

I wondered if it is the Christopher Keane on the 1911 Census for Ireland
This Christopher Keane is wth his Father James Keane and Mother Catherine
Maybe they are Keane brothers
Living in England ?.
Thankyou
Olive

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 25 Aug 2018 16:34

Thankyou so much for all your trouble of finding these families
its Really amazing

Bye for now and Thankyou
Olive

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Aug 2018 16:26

Catherine's birth ??

Catherine Quin
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Births Index, 1864-1958
Name: Catherine Quin
Date of Registration: 1875
Registration district: Rathdrum
Birth Country: Ireland
Volume: 12
Page: 923
FHL Film Number: 101052

Birth 24 Aug 1875, at Newtown.
Parents: James Quin, of Newtown, labourer, and Bridget Quin, formerly Kavanagh.
Informant - present at birth - Mary Kavanagh, Newtown.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Aug 2018 16:22

Possibly parents' marriage ??

James Keane
in the Ireland, Civil Registration Marriages Index, 1845-1958
Name: James Keane
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec, 1896
Registration district: Rathdrum, Ireland
Volume: 2
Page Number: 849
FHL Film Number: 101258
Records on Page:
Name
Catherine Quinn

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Aug 2018 16:19

Leo 1903's mother's maiden surname was Quinn:

Christopher Thomas Keane
in the Ireland, Select Catholic Birth and Baptism Registers, 1763-1917
Name: Christopher Thomas Keane
Baptism Age: 0
Birth Date: 25 Dec 1907
Baptism Date: 27 Dec 1907
Baptism Place: Armagh, Armagh, Ireland
Father: James Joseph Keane
Mother: Catherine Quinn

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Aug 2018 15:57

Parents and siblings in 1901:

James Joseph Keane
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1901

Name: James Joseph Keane
Gender: Male
Age: 32
Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation to Head: Head
Residence Date: 31 Mar 1901
Townland/Street: Gaol Street
District: Kilkenny Urban
County: Kilkenny
Household Members:
Name Age
James Joseph Keane 32 - Prison warder
Kate Keane 25
James Keane 2
Bridget Keane
Mary Hickey 26 - servant

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Aug 2018 15:53

Leo Keane
in the Web: Ireland, Census, 1911
Name: Leo Keane
Gender: Male
Age: 8
Birth Year: abt 1903
Relation to Head: Son
Residence Date: 2 Apr 1911
Townland/Street: Barrack Hill
District: Armagh E. Urban
County: Armagh
Household Members:
Name Age
James Joseph Keane 41 - Prisons Service, born Dublin
Catherine Keane 34 - Wicklow
James Keane 12 - Wicklow
Bridgid Keane 10 - Kilkenny
Leo Keane 8 - Kilkenny
Francis Joseph Keane 5 - Dublin
Christopher Thos Keane 3 - Armagh

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Aug 2018 15:51

If you buy a copy of Mary Julia's birth cert (details posted above), that will give you her parents' names.

Olive Jean

Olive Jean Report 25 Aug 2018 15:36


Thankyou for your reply I won’t put you to all that trouble Thankyou

Is there any way of finding
Mary Julia Nagle born 1914 Ireland
Mother and Father

Also Leo Keane born 1903 Ireland
Mother and Father
Please
Thankyou
Olive