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Tom ( Thomas) Davies 1886-1916

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Kucinta

Kucinta Report 7 Oct 2018 20:38

How do you know Tom was killed in 1916?

Is there any information on the Ffestiniog WWI memorial?

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 7 Oct 2018 20:23

If you look at the CWGC site Malyon mentioned, you will see there are a lot of men named Thomas or T Davies who died in WWI.

Some entries have extra information such as parentage or names of a wife to help identify them, others have little more than name, rank and regiment. Again, some have age at death, some do not.

You could go through them to see if you can identify Tom.

https://www.cwgc.org/find/find-war-dead

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 7 Oct 2018 20:20

Ellis in 1901 at an Industrial School in Manchester:

First name(s) Ellis
Last name Davies
Relationship Asst Schoolmaster
Marital status Single
Sex Male
Age 22
Birth year 1879
Birth town Festiniog
Birth town as transcribed FESTINIOG
Birth place Wales
Birth place other as transcribed -
Birth county Merionethshire
Birth county as transcribed MERIONETHSHIRE
Occupation Schoolmaster
House name -
House number -
Street -
Town -
Parish South Manchester
Country England
County Lancashire
Municipal ward Ardwick
Registration district Chorlton
Other household member first name(s) -
Other household member last name -
Archive reference RG13
Piece number 3692
Folio 205
Page 1
Record set 1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys

Frances

Frances Report 7 Oct 2018 20:17

That's him in the census so if he was there when he enlisted he may have joined one of the South Wales battalions.
However the cwgc entry is not him. His parents were David and Jane and they didn't live in Llanelly/i. I have a note that he had two children Betty and Jack so he married between 1911 and whenever he left for war.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 7 Oct 2018 20:15

Ellis in 1911 at Blue Coats ?

1911 Census For England & Wales

Church Road Wavertree, Wavertree, Lancashire, England

Name: Ellis Davies
Age in 1911: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation to Head: Assistn Master (Master)
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Festiniog, Merioneth
Civil Parish: Wavertree
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: School Teacher
Registration district: West Derby
Registration District Number: 455
Sub-registration district: Wavertree
ED, institution, or vessel: 40-41
Piece: 22693
Household Members:
Name

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 7 Oct 2018 20:07

Tom (Thomas) in 1911?


1911 Census For England & Wales

102 and 103 High Street Merthyr-Tydfil, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales

Isaac Williams Boarder Single Male 33 1878 Drapery Manager Ciliau Devon
Thomas Howells Boarder Single Male 17 1894 Drapery Assistant Merthyr Cardigan Glam
Arthur Probert Boarder Single Male 22 1889 Drapery Assistant Pentre Rhondda Glam
Alfred Thomas Harper Boarder Single Male 24 1887 Drapery Assistant St Dogmaels Glam
>>>>>>>>Thomas Davies Boarder Single Male 25 1886 Drapery Assistant Festiniog Pembrokeshire
Hedley Osborne Boarder Single Male 16 1895 Drapery Apprentice Cardiff Glam Monmouthshire
Gwladys Davies Boarder Single Female 21 1890 Drapery Assistant Cilfynydd Glam
Elizabeth Jane Roberts Boarder Single Female 23 1888 Drapery Assistant Pontlottyn Glam
Harriet Francis Boarder Single Female 17 1894 Drapery Assistant Aberdare Glam
Margaret Davies Boarder Single Female 36 1875 Drapery Assistant Brecon Breconshire
Celia Jones Boarder Single Female 29 1882 Book Keeper Gray Breconshire
Elizabeth McKay Boarder Single Female 67 1844 Housekeeper Edinburgh Edinburgh
Annie Griffiths Boarder Single Female 22 1889 Servant Merthyr Glam
Maggie Davies Boarder Single Female 18 1893 Servant Troedyrhiw Glam
Beatrice Chappell Boarder Single Female 25 1886 Millener Bridgend Glam

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 7 Oct 2018 20:02

Census 1881, for name of his mother, Jane:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Pant Llwyd, Festiniog, Ffestiniog, Merionethshire, Wales

>>>David Davies Head Married Male 28 1853 Quarryman Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales
>>>>Jane Davies Wife Married Female 26 1855 Quarryman Wife Trawsfynydd, Merionethshire, Wales
Lizzie J Davies Daughter Single Female 4 1877 - Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales
Ellis Davies Son Single Male 2 1879 - Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales

malyon

malyon Report 7 Oct 2018 19:56

https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/435094/davies,-thomas/

malyon

malyon Report 7 Oct 2018 19:53

DAVIES, THOMAS
Service Number 185

Died 03/07/1916

Aged 22

1st Bn.
Welsh Guards

Son of David and Margaret Jane Davies, of 8, Victoria Terrace, Sea Side, Llanelly.


Buried at LIJSSENTHOEK MILITARY CEMETERY

Location: West-Vlaanderen, Belgium
Number of casualties: 10121

Cemetery/memorial reference: VIII. B. 43A.

Kucinta

Kucinta Report 7 Oct 2018 19:53

For the benefit of helpers:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Highgate, Festiniog, Ffestiniog, Merionethshire, Wales

David Davies Head Widower Male 48 1853 Slate Quarry Man Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales
Maggie Davies Daughter Single Female 19 1882 - Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales
Ellin Davies Daughter Single Female 17 1884 - Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales
Thomas Davies Son Single Male 15 1886 Draper's Apprentice Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales
Jane Davies Daughter Single Female 13 1888 - Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales


and:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Pant Llwyd, Festiniog, Merionethshire, Wales

David Davies Head Widower Male 38 1853 Slate Quarryman Merionethshire, Wales
Lizzie Davies Daughter - Female 14 1877 - Merionethshire, Wales
Ellis Davies Son - Male 12 1879 - Merionethshire, Wales
Maggie Davies Daughter - Female 9 1882 - Merionethshire, Wales
Ellen Davies Daughter - Female 7 1884 - Merionethshire, Wales
Thomas Davies Son - Male 5 1886 - Merionethshire, Wales
Jane Davies Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Merionethshire, Wales
Ann Jones Servant Widow Female 33 1858 Domestic Servant Anglesey, Wales

Frances

Frances Report 7 Oct 2018 19:05

Tom was killed in the War. I am trying to find out where and how.
In 1901 he was living at Highgate Ffestiniog, 15 years old and described as a Draper's apprentice.Also living there were David Davies the father, Maggie aged 19, Ellen ( Nell) aged 17, and Jane aged 13. An older sister Elizabeth died in 1899 and an older brother Ellis ( born in 1880) has moved away.
I don't know where Tom enlisted or in what regiment. He has disappeared from the 1911 Census and if he was by then living away he could have enlisted wherever he was living. We know that Ellis became a teacher in Bluecoats school in Liverpool and wonder if he and Thomas may have lodged together there but we can't find them. I have just returned from Ypres and in the large book of names of every British soldier who died in the Great War I found the name Tom Davies and Cheshire Regiment.
Can you help me
1. Find out where and how Thomas died
2. In order to find this out it would help to know where he lived when he enlisted and what regiment he was in
3. I would asdo like to know where Ellis trained as a teacher.
With thanks