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john McCaffrey born 1866 Monaghan Ireland

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TER32

TER32 Report 15 Oct 2018 16:40

looking for a more specific birthplace in order to acquire a birth certificate. His parents were Michael McCaffrey and Catherine (nee McSpirit).The

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Oct 2018 16:43

Try

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/services/go-groni-online


Have you looked for/found him on any censuses?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 15 Oct 2018 16:55

Two members other than you have Catherine in GR trees. Perhaps they'll know

malyon

malyon Report 15 Oct 2018 17:09

did michael 1832 and catherine 1830 have 9 children

vent Type: Census
Event Date: 1881
Event Place: Westby With Plumpton, Lancashire, England
Registration District: Fylde
Residence Note: Whinbrick Rd
Gender: Male
Age: 15
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: Weaver Cotton
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Birth Year (Estimated): 1866
Birthplace: Monaghan, Ireland
Page Number: 3
Registration Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 4250/43
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Michael Mccaffrey Son Male 18 Monaghan, Ireland
John Mccaffrey Son Male 15 Monaghan, Ireland
Margaret Mccaffrey Daughter Female 11 Wrea Green, Lancashire, England
James Mccaffrey Son Male 8 Westby, Lancashire, England
Thomas Mccaffrey Son Male 8 Westby, Lancashire, England

malyon

malyon Report 15 Oct 2018 18:02

monaghan is in the province of Ulster

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 Oct 2018 19:50

Full 1881 census for info -

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Whinbrick Road, Westby with Plumpton, Fylde, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Michael McCaffrey Head Married Male 49 1832 Land Drainer Monaghan, Ireland
Catherine McCaffrey Wife Married Female 51 1830 - Monaghan, Ireland
Patrick McCaffrey Son Single Male 26 1855 Brickmakers Lab Monaghan, Ireland
Ann McCaffrey Daughter Single Female 24 1857 Weaver Cotton Monaghan, Ireland
Catherine McCaffrey Daughter Single Female 22 1859 Servent Domestic Monaghan, Ireland
Ellen McCaffrey Daughter Single Female 20 1861 Weaver Cotton Monaghan, Ireland
Michael McCaffrey Son Single Male 18 1863 Brick Makers Lab Monaghan, Ireland
John McCaffrey Son Single Male 15 1866 Weaver Cotton Monaghan, Ireland
Margaret McCaffrey Daughter Single Female 11 1870 Scholar Wrea Green, Lancashire, England
James McCaffrey Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Westby, Lancashire, England
Thomas McCaffrey Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Westby, Lancashire, England
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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
MCCAFFERY, JAMES MCSPIRIT Order
GRO Reference: 1872 D Quarter in FYLDE Volume 08E Page 642

MCCAFFERY, THOMAS MCSPIRIT Order
GRO Reference: 1872 D Quarter in FYLDE Volume 08E Page 642

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 Oct 2018 20:13

There are any number of McSpirit's in Westby in census 1881 onwards - maybe related to Catherine. Following them through, some are from County Fermanagh which is in what is now Northern Ireland, but is next door to Co. Monaghan - now in Eire. County Cavan borders both (Eire)

It may be worth following some to see if it is ever stated where in the County Monaghan/Fermanagh they were born. It may help track records. Or tracking the children of Michael and Patrick that were born in Ireland. The census is sometimes more precise.

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 Oct 2018 20:25

lancashirebmd.org.uk

Hoping might show a Church wedding which at least might indicate their religion.
This was Reg. Office or Registrar attended so might be RC

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1888
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
GILLETT Robert MCCAFFREY Ann Old Fylde Register Office or Registrar Attended Blackpool OFY/15/83
Total records matching : 1

They are on the 1891 census with/next door to Michael and Catherine in Medlar with Wesham

greyghost

greyghost Report 15 Oct 2018 20:31

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1892
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
MCCAFFREY Patrick SANDERSON Alice Ellen Old Fylde Register Office or Registrar Attended Blackpool

1901 census has them in Medlar with Wesham

1911 shows him born County Fermanagh

1911 Census For England & Wales
18 Porter St East Wesham Kirkham, Medlar with Wesham, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Patrick McCaffery Head Married Male 55 1856 Labourer General Co Fermanagh Ireland
Alice Ellen McCaffery Wife Married Female 54 1857 Cotton Weaver Lancashire England
Joseph McCaffery Son Single Male 16 1895 Cotton Weaver Lancashire England

TER32

TER32 Report 16 Oct 2018 16:46

thanks for all your efforts but I think my answer lies somewhere in Ireland. I have been searching for my ancestors since 1962 and have loads of info but the enigma of John McCaffrey (my Grandfather) remains an enigma, at least his birthplace does. and Without his birth certificate my hope of getting an Irish passport will probably die with me as I am 86 years old now. BOO Hoo!! Teresa