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Job Challenger

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helina

helina Report 23 Nov 2018 17:47

Job Challenger 1789-1843 and Mary Wride 1802-1884 married in 1831. They had 6 daughters
Mary b 1832
Eliza b 1833
Charlotte b 1835
Sarah b 1837
Elizabeth b 1839
Ellen b 1842
All born in Bristol
In 1851 the mother Mary is widowed living with 3 of her daughters Sarah, Elizabeth and Ellen.

The 6 daughters apart from the 3 in 1851 seem to have disappeared, any ideas?

Any help would be appreciated

helina

safc

safc Report 23 Nov 2018 18:46

????

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

29, Redcliff Crescent, Bedminster, Somerset, England
Charlotte Challenger's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Christianna Webb Head Widow Female 73 1778 Indepent Annuitant Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Charlotte Challenger Servant - Female 14 1837 House Servt Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

safc

safc Report 23 Nov 2018 18:49

Record Transcription:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census


First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William G Craig Head Married Male 34 1817 Engineer Scotland
Eliza E Craig Wife Married Female 31 1820 - Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Fanny J Craig Daughter - Female 1 1850 - Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales
Mary Challinger Servant Unmarried Female 19 1832 Housemaid Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Eliza Challinger Servant Unmarried Female 18 1833 Housemaid Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

malyon

malyon Report 23 Nov 2018 19:03

could be eliza

England and Wales Census, 1851





Name: Eliza Challinger
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1851
Event Place: St Woollos, Monmouthshire, Wales
Registration District: Newport
Residence Note: Cambria Place
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Marital Status: Unmarried
Occupation: Housemaid
Relationship to Head of Household: Servant
Birth Year (Estimated): 1833
Birthplace: Bristol,
Page Number: 14
Registration Number: HO107
Piece/Folio: 2452 / 301
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
William G Craig Head Male 34 Scotland
Eliza E Craig Wife Female 31 Bristol,
Fanny J Craig Daughter Female 1 Newport, Monmouthshire
Mary Challinger Servant Female 19 Bristol,
Eliza Challinger Servant Female 18 Bristol,

malyon

malyon Report 23 Nov 2018 19:06

Sarah Challenger
England and Wales Census, 1851





Name: Sarah Challenger
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1851
Event Place: Bedminster, Somerset, England
Registration District: Bedminster
Residence Note: Somerset Terrace
Gender: Female
Age: 14
Occupation: General Servant
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated): 1837
Birthplace: Bedminster,
Page Number: 14
Registration Number: HO107
Piece/Folio: 1945 / 434
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Mary Challenger Head Female 47 Chilvey, Somerset
Sarah Challenger Daughter Female 14 Bedminster,
Elizabeth Challenger Daughter Female 12 Bedminster,
Ellin Challenger Daughter Female 9 Bedminster,

malyon

malyon Report 23 Nov 2018 19:22

Residence Note: Sergeant'S Buildings
Gender: Female
Age: 9
Age: 9
Birth Year (Estimated): 1832
Birthplace: Somerset
Registration District: Bedminster
Parish: Bedminster
County: Gloucestershire
Page Number: 11
Registration Number: HO107
Piece/Folio: 376/8
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Solomon Hollester Male 67-71 Somerset
Ann Hollester Female 67-71 Somerset
Job Challenger Male 52-56 Somerset
Mary Challenger Female 32-36 Somerset
Mary Challenger Female 9 Somerset
Eliza Challenger Female 7 Somerset
Charlotte Challenger Female 5 Somerset
Sarah Challenger Female 3 Somerset
Elizabeth Challenger Female 1 Somerset

malyon

malyon Report 23 Nov 2018 20:35


Eliza Challenger
England and Wales Marriage Registration Index
Name Eliza Challenger
Event Type Marriage
Registration Quarter Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration Year 1874
Registration District Clutton
County Somerset
Event Place Clutton, Somerset, England
Volume 5C
Page 925
Affiliate Line Number 266

Eliza Challenger probably married one of the following people
Name John Fear
Name Mary Ann Gallop
Name Henry Moon

helina

helina Report 24 Nov 2018 07:31

Thank you for your help, now know where all 6 girls where in 1861 and a marriage as well.

helina

helina

helina Report 25 Nov 2018 08:19

After doing some research into the possible marriage of Eliza Challenger came across a marriage certificate on ancestry. Unfortunately according to the certificate Eliza's father was called George Challenger not Job.

Helina

malyon

malyon Report 25 Nov 2018 20:43


Eliza Challenger
England and Wales Census, 1861

Name: Eliza Challenger
County: Somersetshire
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Event Place: Camerton, Somersetshire, England
Registration District: Clutton
Gender: Female
Age: 6
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated): 1855
Birthplace: Camerton, Somerset
Page Number: 3
Registration Number: RG09
Piece/Folio: 1680 / 123
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
George Challenger Head Male 31 Camerton, Somerset
Mary Challenger Wife Female 32 Camerton, Somerset
Joseph Challenger Son Male 8 Camerton, Somerset
Eliza Challenger Daughter Female 6 Camerton, Somerset
William Challenger Son Male 4 Camerton, Somerset
Mark Challenger Son Male 2 Camerton, Somerset

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Nov 2018 22:35

Mary Challenger still with the Craig family in 1861:


Mary Challenger
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Mary Challenger
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: 1823
[1833]
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Islington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington West
ED, institution, or vessel: 67
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 38
Piece: 136
Folio: 125
Page Number: 10
Household Members:
Name Age
William G Craig 42
Eliza H Craig 39
Freensy Jane Craig 11
Clara E Craig 9
Lilian M Craig 6
Edwd W H Craig 5
Louisa Jenks 48
Mary Challenger 38
Sarah Maryo 12
Julia Day 8
Katharine Day 6
Emmeline Day 4
Walter Day 2
Julia Hampton 49
Eliza Gamble 20
Ann Gamble 40


And in 1871:


Mary Challenger
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Mary Challenger
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol, Somerset, England
Civil Parish: Islington St Mary
Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Islington
Sub-registration district: Islington East
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Household schedule number: 94
Piece: 283
Folio: 63
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
William Gandley Craig 52
Eliza Ellen Craig 51
Fanny Isabella Craig 21
Lillian Margretta Craig 16
Edwd Willm Jno James Craig 15
Mary Challenger 38
Sarah Maia 28


And 1881:

Mary Challenger
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Mary Challenger
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relationship to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol
Civil Parish: Stratton St Margaret
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street address: Stratton House
Occupation: Cook
Registration district: Highworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors:
Piece: 2015
Folio: 96
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
William G. Craig 54
Eliza Ellen Craig 48
Fanny I. Macqueen 26
Clara E. Craig 20
Lillian M. Craig 18
Mary Challenger 40
Bessie Long 19


William Craig died in France:

William Grindley Craig
in the England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966, 1973-1995
Name: William Grindley Craig
Death Date: 24 Jan 1886
Death Place: France
Probate Date: 6 Jan 1891
Registry: Principal Registry

Administration of the personal estate of William Grindley Craig late of St Jean de Luz, Basse Pyrenees in France, widower, who died 24 January 1886 at St Jean de Luz was granted at the Principal Registry to Clara Eliza Craig of Hill House, Keston in the county of Kent, spinster, the daughter, and one of the next of kin.

His wife's death:
Deaths Mar 1882 (>99%)
CRAIG Eliza Ellen 55 Highworth 5a 4

Maybe Mary went with William to France??

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 25 Nov 2018 22:39

I know it's not relevant to the Challenger family, but in case anyone's looking for her, Clara Eliza is badly entered in 1891 and 1901 censuses - YOB and POB both completely wrong. She was born 1852 in Newport, Monmouthshire.

:

Clara E Craig
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Clara E Craig
Gender: Female
Age: 29
Relationship: Governess
Birth Year: 1862
Birth Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Keston
Residence Place: Keston, Keston, Kent, England
Sub registration district: Bromley
ED, Institution or Vessel: 36
Neighbors:
Piece: 631
Folio: 75

Address: Hill House



Clara E Craig
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Clara E Craig
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: London, England
Civil Parish: Ludford
Ecclesiastical parish: Ludford St Giles
Town: Ludford
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: Governess <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Registration district: Ludlow
Sub-registration district: Ludlow
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors:
Piece: 2503
Folio: 61
Page Number: 3
Household schedule number: 15


EDIT: YOB also wrong in 1881 when she's with her parents - says 1861.

Died 1928 in Wycombe reg district.

helina

helina Report 26 Nov 2018 07:20

Thanks for the Craig information ArgyllGran, interesting.

Mary Challenger dies in 1884 so doubt if she went to France.

First name(s) Mary Last name Challenger Sex Female Age at death 83 Birth year 1801 Burial year 1884 Burial date 23 Nov 1884 Burial place Bristol, St Mary Redcliffe, Gloucestershire, England Place Bristol, St Mary Redcliffe Town Bristol County Gloucestershire Country England Archive Bristol Archives Archive reference Burials, 1868-1888 (P/St MR/R/4/3) Record set Gloucestershire, Bristol Burial Index Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Burials