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1870 Birth Registration

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Pamela

Pamela Report 2 Feb 2019 15:35

I am wanting to order a copy of a Birth certificate for Mary Jane Hewitt born on 21st September 1870 in Maryport Cumberland England ( died on 28th September 1958 Thornaby Yorkshire) I am not finding this with my usual searches; Thanks for any help. She was married in Catholic Church Whitehaven in 1890 to Patrick Francis Wood. Thanks Pam

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Feb 2019 15:48

This is the nearest I can see:-

First name(s) MARY JANE
Last name HEWITT
Birth year 1869
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Hewitt
District Whitehaven
County Cumberland
Country England
Volume 10B
Page 576
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births

Penalties for not registering a birth did not come in until 1875, so perhaps her birth wasn't actually registered.

Kath. x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Feb 2019 16:18

If you got the DOB from 1939 register, remember that it's not always correct:


Mary Jane Wood
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Mary Jane Wood
Gender: Female
Marital status: Widowed
Birth Date: 21 Sep 1870
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 2 IRAFALGAR St
[2 TRAFALGAR St]
Residence Place: Thornaby-on-Tees, Yorkshire (North Riding), England
[Yorkshire (North Riding), England]
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 186
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: JGRA
Registration district: 534/4
Household Members:
Name
Mary Jane Wood
Violet Philips

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Feb 2019 16:39

Born sept she shouid be reg in the Dec qtr

It may be her birth wasn't registered

Does she name her father on the marriage cert

Have you found her on the 1871 and 1881 census

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Feb 2019 16:51

A tree on ancestry has this
Patrick Francis Wood
Spouse Mary Jane Hewitt
Father: Francis (Frank) Wood
Mother: Elizabeth Meigham
Children: Elizabeth
Birth: Apr 1869 Workington, Cumberland, England
Death: Mar 1928 Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England
Residence: 1881 Workington, Cumberland, England

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Feb 2019 16:57


Name: Patrick Francis Wood
Registration Year: 1890
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Cockermouth
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Cumberland
Volume: 10b
Page: 979
Records on Page:
Name
Mary Jane Hewitt

Patrick Francis Wood


View England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Order death certificate for Patrick F Wood
Add alternate information
Report issue
Name: Patrick F Wood
Death Age: 57
Birth Date: abt 1871
Registration Date: Mar 1928
Registration district: Middlesbrough
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 737

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Feb 2019 17:00

Suggests she wa born a bit later

1901 census
Mary J Wood
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Spouse: Patrick Wood
Birth Place: Maryport, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Workington
Search Photos: Search for 'Workington' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Workington St Michael
Town: Workington
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Workington
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4884
Folio: 110
Page Number: 25
Household schedule number: 139
Household Members:
Name Age
Patrick Wood 30
Mary J Wood 28
Elizabeth Wood 9
Lilian Wood 2



1911 census


Name: Mary Jane Wood
Age in 1911: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Maryport, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Workington
Search Photos: Search for 'Workington' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England
Street address: 8 Downs Lanc Workington
Marital status: Married
Registration district: Cockermouth
Registration District Number: 576
Sub-registration district: Workington
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Piece: 31445
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Jane Wood 39
Elizabeth Wood 19
Lilian Wood 11
Agnes Wood 9
Christina Wood 3
Ethel Wood 2
Mary Elizabeth Wood 15/12
John Edward Wood 6/12

Pamela

Pamela Report 2 Feb 2019 17:01

Thanks. I have seen those trees Mary Jane Hewitt's Father was John He was a Seaman
I will have to return tomorrow as I have to go to work now
Thanks you.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 2 Feb 2019 17:03

???

Births Dec 1874
Hewitt Mary Jane Whitehaven10b 625

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 2 Feb 2019 17:47

HEWITT, MARY JANE -
GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in WHITEHAVEN Volume 10B Page 576


HEWITT, MARY JANE CHAMBERS
GRO Reference: 1874 D Quarter in WHITEHAVEN Volume 10B Page 625

HEWITT, MARY STUDHOLME
GRO Reference: 1874 M Quarter in WHITEHAVEN Volume 10B Page 593


HEWITT, MARY ELIZABETH STEWARTSON
GRO Reference: 1870 J Quarter in WHITEHAVEN Volume 10B Page 563

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 2 Feb 2019 18:00

The Mary Jane Hewitt born 1874 with mother's maiden name Chambers is probably the daughter from this marriage:-

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name HEWITT
Marriage quarter 1
Marriage year 1873
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

WILLIAM HEWITT married one of these people

Mary Corkhill, >>>>>Elizabeth Chambers<<<<<

District Whitehaven
District number -
County Cumberland
Country England
Volume 10B
Volume as transcribed 10B
Page number 831
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

The father's name would be William in this case, NOT John.

Kath. x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Feb 2019 18:37

It may simply be that her birth wasn’t registered

If she knew who her father was, his name will be on her marriage cert

Edit

You say her father was John - is there any proof?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Feb 2019 21:05

Perhaps she was illegitimate and her birth is registered under a different surname. Have you found her on any census records before her marriage please?

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 2 Feb 2019 23:29

I don't see either Patrick or Mary in 1891.


Can't see daughter Elizabeth's birth, either.
Unless, for some reason, it's this one, though I don't see how:

WOODS, ELIZABETH -
GRO Reference: 1892 S Quarter in COCKERMOUTH Volume 10B Page 625

Patrick's birth:

Births Jun 1869 (>99%)
WOODS Patrick Francis Cockermouth 10b 521


Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 2 Feb 2019 23:50

This is a John Hewitt and anther Hewitt Thomas both are boarders and Mariners. I can find Thomas in other census but not John.

John S Hewitt

1861 England Census

Name: John S Hewitt
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: 1835
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Workington, Cumberland, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Mariner <<<<<

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: St Thomas
ED, institution, or vessel: 11f
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 31
Piece: 2676
Folio: 35
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
John Mc Laughlin 68
Elizabeth Mc Laughlin 61
David Faulds 37
Thomas M Hewitt 31<<<<<<<
John S Hewitt 26<<<<<<<


safc

safc Report 3 Feb 2019 00:05

1871 Census
7 Records found


Piece: RG10/5016 Place: Sunderland -Co. Durham Enumeration District: 1
Civil Parish: Bishop Wearmouth Ecclesiastical Parish: St Thomas
Folio: 9 Page: 11 Schedule: 56
Address: 21 Spring Gardens Lane

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HEWITT Robert Head M M 52 Bookmaker Cumberland - Dalston
HEWITT Ann Wife M F 45 Co. Durham - Darlington
HEWITT David Son U M 19 Bookmaker Co. Durham - Sunderland
HEWITT Jane Dau U F 16 Co. Durham - Sunderland
HEWITT Margaret Dau U F 10 Co. Durham - Sunderland
HEWITT Arthur Son U M 13 Co. Durham - Sunderland
HEWITT John Lodger U M 32 Seaman Cumberland - Dalston xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

safc

safc Report 3 Feb 2019 00:43

1861 Census
7 Records found


Piece: RG9/3779 Place: West Sunderland -Co. Durham Enumeration District: 2
Civil Parish: Sunderland Ecclesiastical Parish: Sunderland
Folio: 46 Page: 19 Schedule: 108
Address: 28 Spring Garden Lane

Surname First name(s) Rel Status Sex Age Occupation Where Born Remarks
HEWITT Robert Head M M 42 Boot & Shoe Maker Cumberland - Dalston
HEWITT Ann Wife M F 35 Co. Durham - Darlington
HEWITT Ann Daur - F 11 Scholar Co. Durham - Sunderland
HEWITT David Son - M 10 Scholar Co. Durham - Sunderland
HEWITT Jane Daur - F 6 Scholar Co. Durham - Sunderland
HEWITT Arthur W Son - M 3 Co. Durham - Sunderland
HEWITT John Brothr U M 24 Seaman Cumberland - Dalston xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Dea

Dea Report 3 Feb 2019 07:29

I had been looking at Mel's 'John S Hewitt' but I can't find him in 1871 :-(

I believe he is in fact John 'J' (Joseph), and this is him below:

Here he is with brother Thomas M and sister Ann who is now married:


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Bank of Whitehaven, High Street, Wigton cum Woodside, Wigton, Cumberland, England
Thomas M Hewitt's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
James Reed Head Single Male 33 1858 Bank Agent Cumberland, England
Ann Reed Mother Widow Female 65 1826 Living On Her Own Means Workington, Cumberland, England
Annie Reed Sister Single Female 43 1848 Living On Her Own Means Cumberland, England
Thomas M Hewitt Uncle Single Male 61 1830 Retired Master Mariner Cumberland, England
Margaret A Cameron Servant Single Female 21 1870 General Servant Domestic Cumberland, England


Marriages Mar 1847 (>99%)
HEWITT Ann Cockermouth 25 67 Scan available - click to view
REED John Cockermouth 25 67 Scan available - click to view




1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Marsh Side, Workington, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
John Hewitt male 50 1791 Ind. Cumberland, England.
Sarah Hewitt Female 50 1791 Cumberland, England
Ann Hewitt Female 15 1826 Cumberland, England
Thomas Hewitt Male 11 1830 Cumberland, England
John Hewitt Male 6 1835 Cumberland, England
Sarah Brown Female 25 1816 Cumberland, England
Isabella Brown Female 20 1821 Cumberland, England





1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Marsh Side, Workington, Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Hewitt Head Married Male 61 1790 Master Mariner Workington, Cumberland, England
Sarah Hewitt Wife Married Female 60 1791 - Seaton, Cumberland, England
John J Hewitt Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Mariner (App) Workington, Cumberland, England



View UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927


Name: Thomas Mairs Hewitt
Estimated Age: 30
Birth Date: 1829
Birth Place: Workington, Cumberland
Issue Date: 25 Apr 1859
Issue Port: Workington
Certificate Number: 20.358

Baptisms:
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Thomas Mairs Hewit
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 19 Aug 1829
Christening Date (Original): 19 AUG 1829
Christening Place: SAINT MICHAEL,WORKINGTON,CUMBERLAND,ENGLAND
Father's Name: John Hewit
Mother's Name: Sarah


Ann Hewitt

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
5 October 1825
SAINT MICHAEL, WORKINGTON, CUMBERLAND, ENGLAND
father:
John Hewitt
mother:
Sarah

John Joseph Hewitt

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
25 September 1834
SAINT MICHAEL, WORKINGTON, CUMBERLAND, ENGLAND
father:
John Hewitt
mother:
Sarah


John Hewitt (He must have died ??)

England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
christening:
10 September 1827
SAINT MICHAEL, WORKINGTON, CUMBERLAND, ENGLAND
death:
15 July 1828
father:
John Hewitt
mother:
Sarah


Dea x

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 3 Feb 2019 12:10

One of the trees on Ancestry says Mary was born in Ireland in 1866, though with this note:

"Birth
21 Sep 1866 • Armagh, Northern Ireland
Mary Jane always said she was born in Maryport. There are no records of her birth there. Even the catholic fathers have tried to trace her. She may have gone to a school there but until I find school records. I dont know! She may have been born in Ireland."


No proof offered. If she was born in 1866, then she was lying about her age in 1901, 1911, and 1939.

The tree also gives John S Hewitt as her father (no proof), and in spite of saying he was born 1835 in Bangor, Northern Ireland, it also shows that 1861 Liverpool census which says he was born in Workington.

The tree says Mary Jane's mother was Margaret (no surname given) born c1839 - but doesn't back that up with any proof.

Can't take any of it as truth.

Pamela

Pamela Report 6 Feb 2019 07:46

Many thanks for all the additional information I will work through all of these
Pam