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My gt grandfather Johann Karl Wilhelm Gobel came to London in the 1860s, and married Margaretta Viohl in Bethnal Green. I have found them in the UK census returns, all their children, grandchildren etc. But I am having problems going back on the Gobel line.

He was born in 1844 in Wurrtemberg, Germany, father's name Georg (or Johann Georg) and I believe his mother was Carolina Gottliebin Schoch. Further back than that I cannot go. I subscribed to FMP in the hope that they would help, then found the World to them covers UK, Australia, Canada and the USA.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Jan

Johann Karl Wilhelm Gobel
Deutschland Geburten und Taufen
Name Johann Karl Wilhelm Gobel
Event Date 1844
Gender Male
Birth Date 03 Oct 1844
Birth Year 1844
Christening Date 13 Oct 1844
Christening Place Dörzbach, Württemberg, Germany
Father's Name Johann Georg Gobel
Mother's Name Carolina Gottliebin Schoch
Citing this Record

"Deutschland Geburten und Taufen, 1558-1898," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5V2-XDC : 10 February 2018), Johann Karl Wilhelm Gobel, 13 Oct 1844; citing ; FHL microfilm 1,190,487.

Facebook has a German genealogy group
its a closed group that you have to request to join

give them what you know when you request help

There is Michael on there who is an excellent researcher. He solved my big brick wall of many years on my German grandfather surname Fahse and grt grandmother who was nee Martens

Parents' marriage:


Johann Georg Gobel
in the Württemberg, Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1500-1985

Name: Johann Georg Gobel
Gender: männlich (Male)
Marriage Age: 28
Event Type: Heirat (Marriage)
Birth Date: 8 Sep 1807
Marriage Date: 1835
Marriage Place: Backnang, Murr, Oa u. Sulzbach, Württemberg, Deutschland (Germany)
Father: Heinrich Gobel
Mother: Barbara Gobel
Spouse: Karoline Gottliebin Schef
Page Number: 198
Author: Evangelische Kirche Sulzbach /Murr (OA. Backnang)
City or District: Backnang, Murr, Oa u Sulzbach


Barbara's maiden name: Bok

Sibling of your Gt Grandfather:

Friedrich Gobel
in the Germany, Select Births and Baptisms, 1558-1898
Name: Friedrich Gobel
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 3 Jan 1847
Baptism Date: 3 Jan 1847
Baptism Place: Dörzbach, Württemberg, Germany
Death Date: 3 Jan 1847
Father: Johann Georg Gobel
Mother: Carolina Gottliebin Schoch
FHL Film Number: 1190487


and, sadly, his death:

Friedrich Gobel
in the Württemberg, Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1500-1985
Name: Friedrich Gobel
Death Age: 0
Event Type: Beerdigung (Burial)
Birth Date: 3 Jan 1847
Death Date: 3 Jan 1847
Burial Date: 5 Jan 1847
Burial Place: Dörzbach, Württemberg, Deutschland (Germany)
Father: Joh. Gr. Gobel
Mother: Carol. Gottl. Gobel
Author: Evangelische Kirche Dörzbach (OA. Künzelsau)
City or District: Dörzbach

Marriage of a sister of Johann Georg (your gt gt grandfather):

Valdburger Theresia Gobel
in the Ludwigshafen, Germany, Births, Marriages, and Deaths, 1798-1875

Name: Valdburger Theresia Gobel
Event Type: Ehe (Marriage)
Marriage Date: 3 Mai 1837 (3 May 1837)
Marriage Place: Friesenheim, Rheinland-Pfalz (Rhineland-Palatinate), Deutschland (Germany)
Gender: weiblich (Female)
Spouse: Johann Georg Rehkugler
Father: Heinrich Gobel
Mother: Barbara Bek
Certificate Number: 5
Registerart: E
Band: 1.


Johann Georg Rehkugler
in the Ludwigshafen, Germany, Births, Marriages, and Deaths, 1798-1875
Name: Johann Georg Rehkugler
Event Type: Ehe (Marriage)
Birth Date: abt 1807
Marriage Date: 3 Mai 1837 (3 May 1837)
Marriage Place: Friesenheim, Rheinland-Pfalz (Rhineland-Palatinate), Deutschland (Germany)
Marriage Age: 30
Spouse: Valdburger Theresia Gobel
Father: David Rehkugler
Mother: Johann Magdalena Eppinger
Certificate Number: 5
Registerart: E
Band: 1

Valdburger's husband's baptism:


EDIT:
Oops, just noticed I pasted the wrong record - will correct it. . . .



Correct record:

Johann Georg Rehkugler
in the Württemberg, Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1500-1985
Name: Johann Georg Rehkugler
Event Type: Taufe (Baptism)
Birth Date: 23 Sep 1806
Baptism Date: 23 Sep 1806
Baptism Place: Nürtingen, Württemberg, Deutschland (Germany)
Father: David Rehkugler
Mother: Johanna Magdalena Rehkugler
Author: Evangelische Kirche Nürtingen (OA. Nürtingen)
City or District: Nürtingen u Wendlingen

I have been confused by the variations of his wife's maiden surname too, I have found three possible spellings of it.

I'm no good on German ancestry but please you're getting help here Jan :-)

Unfortunately, that's as far as I can go, as far as Ancestry's records are concerned.

There's another Barbara and Heinrich Gobel, which is confusing, but they're in the Hesse region, and have an umlaut above the o in their name.
That Barbara's ms was Fischer.

I joined the FB group German Genealogy, I've been shown 2 pictures of documents written in blurred German, which I can't read - one of them had a note added that it was Georg Gobel's birth, the other just that it referred to his wife, but no idea what information it contained.