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john james watt

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erika

erika Report 26 Feb 2019 13:20

I have a john james watt 28 married to Elizabeth hamer in 1915 know they had 3 children john francis and ann this is Elizabeth 2nd marriage she was a spencer I am trying to find a john james watt who was his father and where they came from I found a jjwatt died in 1931 aged 44 but don't know what of I know francis married martha dunn may 1948 they had 4 children frank Robert brian janet can anyone help
have not been able to trace john james since his marriage thankyou for takeing time to read post erika

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Feb 2019 13:25

For reference:

Name: John James Watt (Labourer, Tarbock Street)
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 28
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1887
Marriage Date: 26 Feb 1915
Marriage Place: Liverpool, St Peter, Lancashire, England
Father: John James Watt (Corn Porter)
Spouse: Elizabeth Hamer

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Feb 2019 13:25

So that we know the location:

Marriages Mar 1915 (>99%)
Hamer Elizabeth Watt Liverpool 8b 78
Watt John J Hamer Liverpool 8b 78

Who is Francis, please?
Is he John Francis, JJ and Elizabeth's son?

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Feb 2019 13:27

Baptism:
Name: John James Watt
Age: 0
Birth Date: 2 Nov 1886
Baptism Date: 26 Jan 1887
Abode 39 Wye Street
Baptism Place: Everton, St Peter, Lancashire, England
Father: John James Watt (warehouse Keeper)
Mother: Kate Watt

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Feb 2019 13:27

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John James Watt
in the 1891 England Census
Name: John James Watt
Gender: Male
Age: 4
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1887
Mother: Catherine Watt
Birth Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Everton
Residence Place: Liverpool, Everton, Lancashire, England
Sub registration district: North Everton
ED, Institution or Vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Piece: 2952
Folio: 19
Household Members:
Name Age
Catherine Watt 31 - widow
Thomas Watt 9
Francis Watt 8
John James Watt 4

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Feb 2019 13:29

FMP version:

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Gordon Street, Everton, West Derby, Lancashire, England
Catherine Watt Head Widow Female 31 1860 Charwoman Lancashire, England
Thomas Watt Son Single Male 9 1882 Scholar Lancashire, England
Francis Watt Son - Male 8 1883 Scholar Lancashire, England
John James Watt Son - Male 4 1887 Scholar Lancashire, England

erika

erika Report 26 Feb 2019 13:32

thankyou for your time francis was jj watt and Elizabeth son jhon was the elder brother of francis thankyou erika

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Feb 2019 13:33



WATT, JOHN JAMES mms HANABERRY
GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 318


WATT, FRANCIS mms HANNABERRY
GRO Reference: 1883 J Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 08B Page 374


WATT, THOMAS mms HANABERRY
GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 88

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Feb 2019 13:34

Marriages Sep 1878 (>99%)
Hanaberry Catherine Liverpool 8b 259
WATT James Liverpool 8b 259

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Feb 2019 13:36

Birth
WATT, ELLEN HANABERRY
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 95

1881:
Name: James Watt
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Catherine Watt
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Civil Parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 10 Croston Court
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Weight Taker (Weigher)
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub registration district: Dale Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors:
Piece: 3610
Folio: 18
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
James Watt 25
Catherine Watt 22
Ellen Watt 1

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Feb 2019 13:37


Catherine Watt
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Catherine Watt
Age: 22
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Relationship to Head: Wife
Spouse: James Watt
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address: 10 Croston Court
Marital status: Married
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub registration district: Dale Street
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors:
Piece: 3610
Folio: 18
Page Number: 30
Household Members:
Name Age
James Watt 25 - weight taker, Ireland
Catherine Watt 22
Ellen Watt 1

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Feb 2019 13:37

WATT, ELLEN mms HANABERRY
GRO Reference: 1879 D Quarter in LIVERPOOL Volume 08B Page 95


OOPS, you've already posted that, AQ.

erika

erika Report 26 Feb 2019 13:38

thankyou in 1911 cathrine husband comes back on census he is listed as james I know he was born in Belfast it is on the 1981 census thankyou erika

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Feb 2019 13:38

FMP version:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

10, Croston Court, Liverpool, Lancashire, England

James Watt Head Married Male 25 1856 Weight Taker (Weigher) Ireland
Catherine Watt Wife Married Female 22 1859 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ellen Watt Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England

safc

safc Report 26 Feb 2019 13:42

Record Transcription:
Lancashire Banns & Marriages

First name(s) James
Last name Watt
Age 23
Birth year 1855
Occupation Labourer
Marital status Bachelor
Year 1878
Marriage year 1878
Marriage date 19 Aug 1878
Place Liverpool, St Peter
Denomination Church Of England
Diocese Liverpool
Residence Croston Court
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Watt
Father's occupation Gardener
Spouse's first name(s) Catherine
Spouse's last name Hanaberry
Spouse's age 19
Spouse's birth year 1859
Spouse's marital status Spinster
Spouse's residence Croston Court
Spouse's father's first name(s) Thomas
Spouse's father's last name Hanagher
Spouse's father's occupation Labourer
Witness 1 Edward Murray
Witness 2 Eleanor Hevery
County Lancashire
Country England
Archive
Liverpool Record Office
Archive reference 283-PET-3-90

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Feb 2019 13:48

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

106, Gordon Street, Everton, West Derby, Lancashire, England

Catherine Watt Head Married Female 38 1863 Charwoman Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Thomas Watt Son Single Male 19 1882 Coal Carter Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Nicholas Watt Son Single Male 8 1893 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Bridget Hanniberry Aunt Single Female 40 1861 - Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Ann Hanniberry Aunt Single Female 33 1868 General Servant (Domestic) Liverpool, Lancashire, England
James Watt Head Married Male 47 1854 Grain Weigher Belfast

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 26 Feb 2019 13:51

You say that James is on the 1891 census, born Belfast?

Where is he living then, please? I don't see him so far.
{EDIT: AQ has posted 1901 above. ]

So Catherine wasn't a widow as stated in 1891?
Certainly I can't see his death 1881-81.

Ancestry suggests this is his death:

James Watt
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: James Watt
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 46
Registration district: Salford
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 29

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 26 Feb 2019 13:54

1911 Census For England & Wales

98 Gordon Street Everton Liverpool, Everton, Lancashire, England

Catherine Watth - Widow Male 46 1865 - Lancs Liverpool
Francis Watth son Single Female 27 1884 Oil Cake Mill Lancs Liverpool
Nicholas Watth Son Single Male 18 1893 Revit Hotter Lancs Liverpool
Bridget Hannibury Aunt Single Female 44 1867 Charwoman Lancs Liverpool

Maddie

Maddie Report 26 Feb 2019 13:54

Name: James Watt
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 23
Event Type: Marriage
Birth Year: abt 1855
Marriage Date: 19 Aug 1878
Marriage Place: Liverpool, St Peter, Lancashire, England
Parish as it Appears: Liverpool
Search Photos: Search for 'Liverpool, St Peter' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: Thomas Watt ------ gardiner
Spouse: Catherine Hanaberry

???????
Irish Birth/Baptism Records – Co. Antrim & Co. Down, c. 1660-1930

1
First Name Surname Year Father's First Name County 1 record = 4 credit(s)
James Watt 1860 Thomas Antrim

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 4 Mar 2019 17:33

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