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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Mar 2019 14:30

So you know Valerie's DOB?

Don't post it on here, as it is an identity theft tool.

It may prove useful to get a copy of the marriage cert you think is hers, to find out the father's name

I find it strange that Mavis's birth was registered under two names if Mary's husband was the father. Not how it usually works

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Mar 2019 14:38

Posting this as the forenames match, although the birth year is wrong

You can cross-refer the day and month with the birth cert


First name(s) VALERIE JUNE
Last name WATERS
Gender Female
Birth day 10
Birth month 6
Birth year 1942
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 2006
District Luton
District number 3151A
Register number A60F
Entry number 230
Date of registration mm/yy 0406
County Bedfordshire

EDITED

No, forget that one - there is a probable birth to match, on freebmd

Dea

Dea Report 12 Mar 2019 14:44

Did any of Valeries children have a connection to the Bedfordshire area?

I found this death and although the date of birth is a couple of years out, this is often the case on death certs as it depends on how much the informant knows about the deceased person:


Name: Valerie June Waters
Death Age: 64
Birth Date: 10 Jun 1942
Registration Date: Apr 2006
Registration district: Luton
Inferred County: Bedfordshire
Volume: -1
Page: -1
Register Number: A60F
District and Subdistrict: 315/1A

Dea x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Mar 2019 15:03

DENT, MIRIAM (MMN) MOORE
GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in WORKSOP Volume 07B Page 36

1939
Bellamoy Household (3 People)
57 Low Road , Doncaster C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Miriam Waterlon (Dent) 09 Feb 1903 Female Housekeeper Single 83 2
Samuel Bellamoy 18 Aug 1894 Male Butcher (Own Account) Married 83 1
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Can't see her in 1911 - yet


Marriages Dec 1892 (>99%)

DENT Robert John Worksop 7b 54
Moore Mary Worksop 7b 54

From a tree on Ancestry
Birth of Daughter Doris Lily Campsall DENT(1897–1962)
08 Jul 1897 • Denaby Main, York, England
1897

28

Birth of Daughter Miriam DENT(1903–1948)
1903 • Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
1903

34

Death of Father John Campsall DENT(1843–1919)
Sep 1919 • Darlington, Yorkshire North Riding, England
1919

50

Death of Brother George Campsall DENT(1872–1928)
Jun 1928 • Rotherham, Yorkshire West Riding, England
1928

59

Death of Daughter Miriam DENT(1903–1948)
1948 • Doncaster, Yorkshire, England
1948

79

Death of Daughter Doris Lily Campsall DENT(1897–1962)
Mar 1962 • Doncaster, Yorkshire West Riding, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Mar 2019 15:14

1911 Census For England & Wales
21 Don View Conisboro Near Rotherham, Conisbrough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
George Cocksedge, Head Widower Male 41 1870 Miner Hewer County of Suffolk
John Cocksedge Son Single Male 20 1891 Miner Pony Driver Conisbro Yorkshire
Doris Cocksedge Daughter - Female 13 1898 - Mexbro Yorkshire
Minnie Cocksedge Daughter - Female 9 1902 - Carlton Nott
George Cocksedge Son - Male 5 1906 - Worksop Nott
Mary Dent Housekeeper Widow Female 42 1869 Housekeeper Worksop Nott



COCKSEDGE, GEORGE MOORE
GRO Reference: 1905 S Quarter in WORKSOP Volume 07B Page 35

Dea

Dea Report 12 Mar 2019 15:15

I think this is the mother Mary Dent now living with a Mr. Cocksedge and amongst the children are a Doris and Minnie who I believe are Miriam (Minnie) and her sister Doris Lily ??

Record Transcription:
1911 Census For England & Wales

21 Don View Conisboro Near Rotherham, Conisbrough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Doris Cocksedge's Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Cocksedge Head Widower Male 41 1870 Miner Hewer County of Suffolk
John Cocksedge Son Single Male 20 1891 Miner Pony Driver Conisbro Yorkshire
Doris Cocksedge Daughter - Female 13 1898 - Mexbro Yorkshire
Minnie Cocksedge Daughter - Female 9 1902 - Carlton Nott
George Cocksedge Son - Male 5 1906 - Worksop Nott
Mary Dent Housekeeper Widow Female 42 1869 Housekeeper Worksop Nott


DENT, DORIS LILY MOORE
GRO Reference: 1897 S Quarter in DONCASTER Volume 09C Page 807

DENT, MIRIAM MOORE
GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in WORKSOP Volume 07B Page 36


COCKSEDGE, GEORGE MOORE
GRO Reference: 1905 S Quarter in WORKSOP Volume 07B Page 35


Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 12 Mar 2019 15:19

We seem to be 'tripping over each other' today Erika ;-) :-D :-D - I will go and get me a nice cup of coffee and come back later <3

Dea x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Mar 2019 15:22

Too wet and windy to do anything outside, so I'm passing the time on this.................. :-D ;-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Mar 2019 15:25

1939

Household (1 Person)
1 Victoria Hospital Voluntary Hospital Victoria Hospital Voluntary Hospital Whinney Heys Road, Blackpool , Blackpool C.B., Lancashire, England

Doris L Collindridge 08 Jun 1897 Female Barmaid Married Patient 2 128

Her hubby

Boothroyd (Bilby) Household (4 People)
18 Sandal Road , Conisbrough U.D., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

Reginald Collindridge 19 Aug 1898 Male Colliery Maintenance Fitter Underground Married 123 4
Nellie Boothroyd (Bilby) 10 Jan 1920 Female Unpaid Household Duties Married 123 1
William Bilby 29 Aug 1915 Male General Labourer Married 123 2

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Mar 2019 15:26

Deaths Mar 1962 (>99%)
COLLINDRIDGE Doris L 64 Doncaster 2b 569

Deaths Dec 1979 (>99%)
COLLINDRIDGE REGINALD 19AU1898 DONCASTER 3 664

Dea

Dea Report 12 Mar 2019 16:16

Yes Erika - the weather is 'evil' here as well! It looks so miserable out there that on my way to get a cup of coffee I changed my mind and helped myself to a (small) glass of wine instead ;-) :-D

I hope it brightens up soon before I start on a box of my Christmas chocolates !

Dea x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Mar 2019 16:24

Good thinking, Dea!

Lisa

Lisa Report 12 Mar 2019 17:32

I’m certain her name is Valerie June. My dad told me and also it says it on the birth certificate xx

Lisa

Lisa Report 12 Mar 2019 17:39

Ahhhhh now then. Yes, Valerie is connected to Bedfordshire... her daughter had an address there and Valerie went to live with her. I’m so sad as this definitely looks like a death certificate for her. ????. I’m gutted to be honest. Ok, so now my search is for her daughters.... Katherine Elizabeth Waters and Joanna Claire Waters.
Minnie is not Miriam. I’ve looked at that before.
I shall now telephone my father and tell him the bad news that Valerie is no longer with us. Hopefully we can track down her daughters!!!
Thank you so much. xx
Yes very windy today ... keep safe and warm xx

Lisa

Lisa Report 12 Mar 2019 17:42

Oh wait..... sorry, just read the bottom part of your mail about being a birth match for the Valerie that died.... that’s still a chance my Valerie is still alive!!! ????????

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Mar 2019 18:10

You have access to her birth cert - check the actual DOB

Any thoughts on all of the other info?

Lisa

Lisa Report 12 Mar 2019 19:50

Yes I’ve checked the D.O.B and it’s definitely 18th June 1944.
I really don’t think she’s passed away. I was wondering though, in the year 2002 she lived with her daughter in Buckinghamshire (I have the address) and then after that, there’s nothing I can find for Valerie or even her daughter. Do u think Valerie could of gone in a home if she wasn’t very well? Will any record show this?
Finding Valerie has been ongoing for me for years. I’m determined to find her or/and her daughters. Why is it so hard? xxx
Oh, the Jones guy.... I’m not really of. She could of married him and then divorced. Remember... she was living with her daughter in 2002 .

Dea

Dea Report 12 Mar 2019 20:21

Is Brunswick Court, or Steppingstone Place a familiar address to you?

Which daughter was she living with in 2002 please?

Dea x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 12 Mar 2019 20:50

You must take into account that after 2002 people could opt out of the public ER.

Have you made any attempt to get in touch with the her or her daughter at the address you have?

Zoopla shows that the last time the address was sold was in May 2001


Lisa

Lisa Report 12 Mar 2019 20:51

Hi Dea, none of them sound familiar... she was living with Katherine Elizabeth Waters. Hundred acres lane.
2005 her other daughter Joanna was at Laurel Ave Twickenham. (That’s if I’ve got the right Joanna) other occupant Matthew J Lacey xx