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1939 look-up Alfred Low (1874 Hackney / Homerton)

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SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 May 2019 23:48

oh ....... I hadn't noted that last!

Yet another reason not to rely only on a transcription!!!

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 May 2019 22:48

Hi Sylvia ....... only noticed it today.

The way the transcript looks on FMP has changed fairly recently. Whoever's name you look up, say Joe Smith, the transcript page is headed - Joe Smith's life in 1939 !!

Had a look at a few more examples and it seems to me that only 5 people maximum are shown initially. If there are more than that in the household there will be the added "View -- more occupants. --- being the number of however many more there are in the household, whether open or closed, that are on the original.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 20 May 2019 20:01

greyghost .................

re your post ......

"greyghost Report 20 May 2019 17:08

Hadn't noticed that before (am I blind) - looking at the 1939 for Alfred in Surrey. Transcript shows 3 open and 2 closed records but original show another open record.

Back to transcript and below the last person is a "View 1 more occupants". Click on that and the 6th person is shown."


I've seen that ....... I think what happens is that someone has had the record opened by submitting a death certificate, but the transcript has not yet been changed

Another reason it always pays to open the image whenever possible!

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 May 2019 18:49

Is this his birth? It says born 3 July 1873, 179 High St., father a dairyman:

Alfred Low
in the London, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1917
Name:
Alfred Low
Gender:
Male
Record Type:
Baptism
Baptism Date:
19 Oct 1883
Baptism Place:
Homerton St Barnabas, Hackney, England
Father:
Alfred Low
Mother:
Louisa Maria Low
Register Type:
Parish Registers

Richard

Richard Report 20 May 2019 18:44

Thanks again for your help.

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 May 2019 17:52

Looks like the family 1939 - spelt LOWE on Transcript but Low on original

Again - Corterd Place on transcript could be Copford Place on original

Elizabeth shown as Married on original

Corterd Place, Lexden and Winstree R.D., Essex, England

Lowe household
(9 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Alfred Lowe 27 Jun 1874 Male Governing Director Reti Married 154 1
Elizabeth Lowe 27 May 1876 Female Domestic Duties Un Married 154 2
Robert A Lowe 26 Apr 1902 Male Incapated Mentaly Single 154 3
Percival L Lowe ? Jun 1905 Male Dairy Farmer (Own Acc Married 154 4
Phyllis M Donnelly 06 Aug 1919 Female Domestic Duty Pa Single 154 5
Elsie J Mead 26 Jan 1920 Female Domestic Duty Pa Single 154 6

Plus 3 closed records

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 May 2019 17:47

You might have the family history, but we don't so trying to find other info. to help you, me and other helpers.

An address is given on the probate record for 1941

Richard

Richard Report 20 May 2019 17:44

Thanks for your help. I've got the family history. My mother in-law is Alfred's grand-daughter. She was reminiscing about playing at Alfred's house in Copford in the 1930s and I hoped to locate it and find out exactly who was living there.

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 May 2019 17:28

The Alfred with mmn Gilkes was born Hackney. So if registered within time limits (6 weeks allowed post birth) his DOB should be mid May-ish to end September 1874

LOW, ALFRED GILKES
GRO Reference: 1874 S Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 495

(Parents Alfred Low and Louisa Maria Gilkes, married West Ham 1859)

1911 census shows Nellie born c1877 Stepney

A tree on ancestry has Nellie dying in 1919 and Alfred remarrying to an Elizabeth Allen (1876-1955) in Epping 1926.

Alfred's death is shown as 29.10.1940 Colchester RD
Probate record says of Copford Place, Main Road, Copford, Essex. Probate granted to Elizabeth Low widow and Louis Victor Low and Percival Leopold Low bulders

Buried 2 Nov 1940 Waltham Forest

Richard

Richard Report 20 May 2019 17:16

He was the son of Alfred Low and Louisa Gilkes so it look like he was born in the West Ham District in the third quarter of 1873.

He married Nellie Lefever in 1899. They had the following children. Loui Victor Low (1901), Robert Alfred Low (1902), Percival Leopold Low (1905), Sidney Walter Low (1909) Nellie Gracie Low (19070 and Daisy Low (1910).

I believe Alfred died in 1940 in Copford.

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 May 2019 17:08

Hadn't noticed that before (am I blind) - looking at the 1939 for Alfred in Surrey. Transcript shows 3 open and 2 closed records but original show another open record.

Back to transcript and below the last person is a "View 1 more occupants". Click on that and the 6th person is shown.

greyghost

greyghost Report 20 May 2019 17:03

Do you have a DOB for Alfred or did he have a second name? Is he likely to be on his own or with family? Are you sure he is alive?

The 1939 register doesn't show place of birth.

These are the only births of an Alfred Low 1874 +/- 2 years (all happen to be in the London area)

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
LOW, ALFRED HARRIS
GRO Reference: 1872 S Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 501
LOW, ALFRED CROUCHER
GRO Reference: 1873 M Quarter in WEST HAM UNION Volume 04A Page 58
LOW, ALFRED GILKES
GRO Reference: 1874 S Quarter in HACKNEY Volume 01B Page 495
LOW, ALFRED EASTER RELF
GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 209

The only Alfred Low (no other initials) in 1939 is in Surrey but born January 1873

Richard

Richard Report 20 May 2019 16:50

Could someone please locate Alfred in the 1939 census. I believe he may have been living in Copford, Essex.

Thanks so much