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William Edgar Spiers/Eden

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Cassandra

Cassandra Report 29 Jan 2020 11:57

Thank you to you all for the various information I garnered. I was able to find out a little more and have now been in contact with my great uncle (William Edgar's younger brother) who is 94 and has filled me in on a great deal of the family history! :-D <3

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 May 2019 17:43

There’s a birth matching the OP’s statement about her father. The details from the cert may prove illuminating - particularly the father's details

One has to wonder why the surname apparently changed in the short time between the marriage and the birth.

Rambling

Rambling Report 24 May 2019 17:41

Cassie, On the marriage cert to Iris, does it actually give middle name as Edgar or are you assuming that since you found the record for the WE Eden going to Jamaice?

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Rambling

Rambling Report 24 May 2019 17:34

This rather ties in with the age of the William Edgar travelling to Jamaica ??


William Edgar Eden
Jamaica, Civil Registration
Name William Edgar Eden
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 09 Jun 1937
Event Place Kingston, Jamaica
Gender Male
Father's Name John Eden
Spouse's Name Edna Inez Cappe
Spouse's Gender Female
Spouse's Father's Name Albert Cappe

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G948-N7WV?i=1702&cc=1538386

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Rambling

Rambling Report 24 May 2019 17:30

Just for ref dept to Jamaica, he gives his residence as Weston Suoer mare, and was intending to stay in Jamaica

First name(s) William Edgar
Last name Eden
Gender Male
Age 36
Birth year 1911
Occupation CLERK OF WORK
Departure year 1947
Departure day 8
Departure month 4
Departure port Avonmouth
Destination port Kingston
Destination KINGSTON
Country Jamaica
Destination country Jamaica
Ship name Ariguani
Ship official number 148890
Ship master's first name J A
Ship master's last name WALLIS
Shipping line ELDERS & FYFFES LD
City AVONMOUTH
Ship destination port KINGSTON
Ship destination country JAMAICA
Ship registered tonnage 4116.47
Number of passengers 129

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Rambling

Rambling Report 24 May 2019 17:07

For consideration EDIT no ignore this have found a first marriage for Annie.

30 Nesfield Street, Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England

William Eden 22 May 1882 Male Brick Labourer Married 20 1
Annie E Eden 08 May ? Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 20 2

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Rambling

Rambling Report 24 May 2019 16:49

just for ref Spiers on image 126 Smithdown Rd Hospital Smithdown Road, Liverpool, Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England

Iris M Speirs (Stuart) 25 Apr 1917 Female Probationer Nurse- Hospit Single 1 56

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Rambling

Rambling Report 24 May 2019 16:44

It's ok just found it, 1944 Liverpool.

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 May 2019 16:44

There’s a marriage in 1944 for William E Spiers and Iris Stuart in Liverpool

+++DetEcTive+++

+++DetEcTive+++ Report 24 May 2019 16:39

Military records after 1920 are still with the MoD. That’s why you can’t find anything online.

You can order a copy for £30 although there could be a wait of several months
http://www.veterans-uk.info/service_records/service_records.html

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Rambling

Rambling Report 24 May 2019 16:29

Cassie, i am probably missing it but you say
"William Edgar Spiers married my grandmother in June 1944 " what was your grandmother's name?

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 24 May 2019 16:03

??? Long shot - haven't checked this out yet -

SPIERS, WILLIAM EDGAR -
GRO Reference: 1912 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 1538


EDIT:
No, your Wiliam's parents were married.

EDIT again:
But I don't see any likely marriage of his parents, nor any sign of them in 1911.

Where did you find the names of his parents?

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Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

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Cassandra

Cassandra Report 24 May 2019 15:50

I am searching for any details pertaining to my paternal grandfather who I have named in the subject heading.

I know that he was born in 1910 possibly October and that his parents were William and ?Ethel Ann? Spiers. His father died in WW1 and we think his mother re-married hence the query surrounding surname.

William Edgar Spiers married my grandmother in June 1944 and was posted abroad by the army (Army number 1868086 REME is all the information I have in this respect) subsequently after their marriage - they had a child Michael Eden (my father) in 1945 and as far as I know, he remained abroad on army duties until 1947.

He returned to the UK in 1947 and the only further record I can find is that he left the country on a ship bound for Jamaica and he was using the surname Eden at this point.

Any help or suggestion as to where to go from here would be gratefully received.

(I have tried searching for him using birth details to no avail and I can't find him on the 1911 census. I have also tried searching his army number on their records but no-one with his name/number is listed.)

Kindest regards,

Cassie Moxon