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Littlewood three sisters

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Valerie

Valerie Report 22 Jul 2019 16:48

Hi, Could anyone help please?

There are three Littlewood sisters in my family tree.

Isabella Born 1565 - age 46 Almondbury
Dorothie Born 1567 - age 44 Almondbury
Elizabeth Born 1570 July 9th age 41 Almondbury

Parents Johnis Littlewood & Joanne Boothe

All died 1611 June 6th in Whitewalls Almondbury, trying to fined out what happened to them all at the same time.

Scance information I can find from 1611.

Fingers crossed.

Many thanks

Val Elson.

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 22 Jul 2019 18:42

What is the source of the info about their deaths?

What is the reference to July 9th against Elizabeth ?

If she was born on that date, she couldn’t have been 41 if she died on 6th June

greyghost

greyghost Report 22 Jul 2019 18:44

googled - illnesses in England 1611

One result is this site which shows plague was around in 1611

http://www.fraser-courtman.co.uk/list_of_famines_&_pestilences_england.html

another - http://www.mongenes.org.uk/epidemics_in_bri.html
1602-1631 - Smallpox outbreaks all over the country

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Jul 2019 18:48

Where did you find that info, Val?

A tree on Rootsweb gives 6 June 1611 as the burial date of Isabella (not her date of death), but no DOD's for the other two sisters, and in any case there's no proof indicated.

https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cks&id=I64516
https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cks&id=I55119
https://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=cks&id=I53057

There are also several trees on Ancestry showing the sisters, but again, with no proof of death or burial.

For actual records, there's this burial on Ancestry - not a death date:

Elizabeth Littwod
in the West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812
Name: Elizabeth Littwod
Event Type: Burial
Death Date: abt 1611 [ no death date on image ]
Burial Date: Jun 1611 [ 6 June on image ]
Burial Place: Almondbury, All Hallows, Yorkshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Almondbury, All Hallows

The image of the parish record does not show burials of any other Littlewoods (or variant) in June1611.

It also does not show that Elizabeth's age or any NOK info, so no way of knowing if she's the same Elizabeth .

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Jul 2019 19:04

There are these births on FamilySearch - but no deaths or burials.
Doroth*'s birth not in the year you quote, unless there was an earlier child of the same name:

Name: Dorothea Litlewodde
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 23 Aug 1590
Christening Date (Original): 23 AUG 1590
Christening Place: ALMONDBURY,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Johis. Litlewodde
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01712-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 230649

Name: Elizabeth Litlewodde
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 09 Jul 1570
Christening Date (Original): 09 JUL 1570
Christening Place: ALMONDBURY,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Johis. Litlewodde
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01712-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 230649


Name: Isabella Lytlewodde
Gender: Female
Christening Date: 20 May 1565
Christening Date (Original): 20 MAY 1565
Christening Place: ALMONDBURY,YORK,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Johis. Lytlewodde
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01712-2
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 230649

malyon

malyon Report 22 Jul 2019 19:29

Dorotheae Litlewodde
England Marriages, 1538–1973

Name: Joannes Taylier
Spouse's Name:
Dorotheae Litlewodde
Event Date:
26 Jul 1587
Event Place:
Almondbury, York, England

malyon

malyon Report 22 Jul 2019 19:32

Elizabeth Litlewood
England Marriages, 1538–1973
Name:
Willimus Roback
Spouse's Name:
Elizabeth Litlewood
Event Date:
1611
Event Place:
Almondbury, York, England

Valerie

Valerie Report 22 Jul 2019 20:05

ArgyllGran

HI, that is quite a discrepancy in birth dates for Dorothie especially when the others are correct? As far as I know considering records from the 1600s.
According to my ancestry notes their mother Joanna Boothe (Joannae Booth) Married 1561 and died 1577.
Val.

Valerie

Valerie Report 22 Jul 2019 20:19

ErikaH
Hi, the source of the info is from Ancestry/Find my past/Family Search.
Elizabeth was born 1570 July 9th. Death 1611 June 6th.
Thanks Val.
(I have responded earlier to you but I cannot view it?)

Valerie

Valerie Report 22 Jul 2019 20:21

greyghost
Hi, thank you I will look at these links.
( have replied earlier but I cannot view it?)
Val.

Valerie

Valerie Report 22 Jul 2019 20:28

malyon
Hi, thank you for this. This has been a short marriage 1611 for Elizabeth re death also in 1611.
Val.

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Jul 2019 22:12

Val -
you say you've found the info on Ancestry/FMP/Familysearch.

I don't have a sub to FMP, so can't say anything about that, but I can find no record of baptism of a Dorothy (of any spelling) in Almondbury, with father John (or other spelling) except the one in 1590, on either Ancestry or FS.

I've found another transcription of Elizabeth's baptism - showing that her mother is Alicia, not Joanne:

. Elizabeth Litlewodde
in the West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812
Name: Elizabeth Litlewodde
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 9 Jul 1570
Baptism Place: Almondbury, All Hallows, Yorkshire, England
Parish as it Appears: Almondbury, All Hallows
Father: Johes Litlewodde
Mother: Alicia Boothe


And I found the burial of an Elizabeth, which I've already posted - though I can't say if she's the same person or not, as the burial record doesn't give her age or father's name.

I can't find burial records for either Dorothy or Isabella.

Similarly, although there definitely was the marriage of a John Littlewoodd and a Joanna Boothe in 1561, so far as I know we have no proof that's the same John who is the father of the three ladies.

Here is another transcription of the marriage Malyon posted - but it shows the marriage was in December 1611, which means this is not the same Elizabeth who died in June 1611:

. Elizabeth Litlewood
in the England & Wales Marriages, 1538-1988
Name: Elizabeth Litlewood
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 8 Dec 1611
Marriage Place: Almondbury, Yorkshire, England
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map:
View this parish
Spouse: Willimus Roback


I apologise if I'm wrong, but it does seem as if you have either assumed that things in other people's trees are correct, without any actual records to back it up, or else have assumed that records are for the same people, when they may be for other people of the same name.

There were several Elizabeth and Dorothy Littlewoods (of various spellings) in Almondbury.at around the same time.

The marriage of Dorothy Littlewood and John Taylor, which Malyon posted, may indeed be your Dorothy's marriage, but equally could be the marriage of one of the other Dorothys. No father's name is given on the original document.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 23 Jul 2019 07:21

Below also on FMP...

Chris :)

National Burial Index For England & Wales (Find My Past)

Last name Litlwod
Age 0
Birth year 1611
Death year 1611
Burial year 1611
Burial date 02 Oct 1611
Church Almondbury All Hallows


England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975

First name(s) Anna
Last name Litlwod
Gender Female
Baptism year 1612
Baptism date 16 Aug 1612
Place Almondbury
County Yorkshire
Father's first name(s) Johis.
Father's last name Litlwod

You need to see original Parish Registers...

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Jul 2019 10:46

You can’t view your earlier responses because you sent PM’s